To: Clappy who wrote (42884 ) 4/20/2005 8:54:55 AM From: Crocodile Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 104191 clapper~ enjoyed hearing about your explorations wearing waders. but i especially liked reading this line:Twas a learning experience. that's what counts. waders are cool, but you have to take care when wandering around in streams in them. if they ever get filled with water from the top they aren't so cool anymore. i've often heard people who work around rescue stuff at lakes and such warn never to wear them in a canoe. in fact, big rubber boots have a bad rep too. filled with water, they can be like wearing cement shoes if you happen to have your canoe tip over. and always be careful walking in moving water, regardless of what you're wearing on your feet. paddlers have been knocked down after getting an ankle caught between a couple of rocks while lining their canoes through knee or thigh deep rapids. Sometimes the flow can make it so hard to stay standing up that it's easy to get pushed down and maybe under the water. you probably know that none of this was said to keep you out of the water. in fact, by all means, get out there wading. just some words from someone who has spent a lot of time paddling, wading and wandering around in rivers. by the way, when it gets warm enough, it can be fun to just put on a pair of pants with fairly close-fitting legs (ones with a waistband that won't give in and fall down when the legs of the pants get wet), pull a pair of socks up over the cuffs, then put on an old pair of hiking boots that you don't care what happens to and go out wading around in those... like, walking up rivers looking at stuff. yes, you get wet, but it's surprisingly comfortable... much more agile than wearing rubber boots or waders and yet keeps the leeches off of you while you're having fun exploring. Last year, i was looking at those wading pants that have a built-in sock.. they just look like regular pants, but are waterproof and you wear them with wading shoes..the kind with a gasket at the ankle. i think i saw them on the L.L. Bean website. Boy, they look like they would be excellent fun.... especially for someone like me that wanders around doing river survey stuff and just exploring in general. ~freshwater croc