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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: pezz who wrote (4744)4/20/2005 6:29:50 AM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36918
 
Re: My point is just what kinda fishing pressure we will see on the wild salmon if we remove that 95% from the mkt?

You are coming across as a puerile glutton. Sensible people understand that maintaining a sustainable fishery is the goal. The avaricious nature of gluttonous and ignorant masses supporting unsustainable fisheries practiced by rapacious marauders is idiotic on its face.



To: pezz who wrote (4744)4/20/2005 10:01:18 AM
From: D_I_R_T  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36918
 
Fishing pressure on salmon, at least in Alaska, will not increase or change no matter how much market demand there is. The salmon fisheries in Alaska have been deemed sustainable by an environmental council that seeks to promote sustainable, environmentally sound fisheries.

The State of Alaska, Department of F+G, manage the salmon fisheries based completely on escapement up the rivers. Certain #s have to be reached to insure that each particular run has reached a level that will maintain it's viability. Some salmon fisheries in Alaska are opened and closed on an hour to hour basis to meet these goals. There are management agreements with Canada that dictate when and how many fish, in some salmon fisheries, may be taken as the stocks in some fisheries are primarily Canadian fish. I won't go on more but I can assure you the salmon fishery in Alaska is managed and guarded like the goose that lays the golden egg.

The only thing that would go up if the demand rises is ex vessel price, the price paid to fishermen. In fact this price has gotten much stronger the last couple year and there is much anticipation that the coming season will be strong also.

Thanks for relaying the info on the farmed salmon %s. I see your point but it will not have an impact on how the salmon fishery is managed in Alaska.



To: pezz who wrote (4744)4/21/2005 4:20:27 PM
From: Snowshoe  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36918
 
<< What is the basis of "95% of the Salmon we eat is farm raised"?>>

The 95% figure may be for fresh salmon only. Most wild salmon is canned, so only about 60% of the total salmon we eat is farmed.

Edit: I just realized my data was from 2001...

>>In just the past year, global farmed-salmon production increased 18 percent to reach 2.5 billion pounds, far outweighing the 1.65 billion-pound wild-salmon haul.<<
mercola.com



To: pezz who wrote (4744)4/22/2005 3:25:48 AM
From: Snowshoe  Respond to of 36918
 
>>for the most part supermarkets don't carry the wild<<

They all carry wild canned salmon.