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To: marcos who wrote (62322)	4/20/2005 2:49:49 PM
From: Slagle	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Marcos, Re: "the indigenous were an Austronesian people". I think there was already a considerable Chinese population in the coastal areas of Taiwan when the Europeans arrived, with the indigenous peoples, relatives of the Iggorats in the Philippines, living further inland. There were Chinese coastal communities in the Philippines going back to the Sung Dynasty and when the Spanish were invading Luzon in the 1560's there was a Chinese who had converted to Islam casting bronze cannon at Manila. They dig up tons of Sung porcelain there. Most lowland peoples were Malay with the Austronesians in the high mountains. I think Taiwan had a similar makeup then. Slagle

To: marcos who wrote (62322)	4/20/2005 3:08:26 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

Eh, I saw a photo of a Chinese mob attacking a Japanese guy and it pissed me off. The Japanese guy was maybe 30 years old, if that. If anybody in his family attacked a Chinese person, it would have been his grandfather. Dumb. Speaking of "claims," turns out that the Caucasian-looking mummies from the Tarim Basin, are, duh, Caucasian. Big surprise, no? But the CCP, well, they find this politically unacceptable, so they tried to suppress it. Dumb. khaleejtimes.com Speaking of dumb, I also read that pollution in China is so bad that the cost of cleanup would outweigh the growth in the Chinese economy -- not that they plan to clean it up. Dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Chinese people are supposed to be smart. Maybe the smart ones left? Just kidding. Just kidding.

To: marcos who wrote (62322)	4/20/2005 5:24:53 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

Marcos, I don't know the details about the history book in Japan, but I do know there is a LOT of history with which children around the world are bored, berated and bewildered. Of course things are glossed over. Good! <Japanese glossing over war crimes, yes that is pretty stupid of them ... calls for an appropriate measured response maybe> There is an almost infinite amount of detail that has happened and nobody has a brain or input mechanisms sufficient to learn about more than a minuscule fraction of it. Personally, I think the text book has too much detail and even more should have been glossed over. I can't think why a Japanese child in the 21st century needs to know about some vicious soldiers from Japan nearly a century ago. It's more important that they learn about the horrors perpetrated by Chinese 500 years ago and by the Mongols 1000 years ago and by the Americans 200 years ago, so they understand how at risk they are from jingoistic racist maniacs around the world. But all that can be safely ignored too, because the world is no longer run by megalomaniac Emperors and their courtiers and military supporters who live by cannibalism, be it by slavery, property theft, or actual flesh of other humans. Hooray for the Japanese glossing over history. Maoris don't go on about how they used to eat each other, and Europeans when available, in genocidal territorial wars. They focus on more positive aspects of their history. Some silly Americans are wanting melanin-rich people in the USA to get money from melanin-deficient people by way of taxation to compensate the melanin-rich for enslavement of their ancestors. On the contrary, the melanin-rich should express their appreciation for their DNA being brought from the hideous horrors of enslavement and an early death in Africa, to the slave plantations, then to citizenship and freedom and anything they wish to and are capable of doing. It seems odd to think that some poor Mexican immigrant on a production line, or low paid job, should give Condoleezza Rice some money because she [perhaps, but I have no idea] had some slaves as ancestors once upon a time. History is a major nuisance and much of it should be ignored. Mqurice