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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (160884)	4/22/2005 1:54:07 PM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

"They didn't drive the inhabitants out. The UN voted a partition (don't you normally like the UN?), the Jews accepted, the Arabs refused and attacked, promising to wipe out the Jews, and the Jews fought back and won. Before and during the course of the war, for many different reasons, most but not all of the Arabs of Palestine fled from the Jewish controlled areas. After the war, nearly 100% of the Jews of the Arab controlled areas fled to Israel. The Jews became Israelis. The Arabs became permanent refugees, generation unto generation." Nadine- How many times in the past few years have you been forced to state the above? They either dance around the issue with pre-history discussions or just ignore the fact that there was a war and thus subsequent dislocation. The UN--the world body--settled the issue in 1947. All history before then becomes just that ancient history and mostly irrelevent for FP. Let the historians argue about the past--the real historians that is, not the windbag on this thread. From the point of partition on, the arab states and many of the local arab leaders are responsible for the war and all that came from it. I would be a much happier guy if little Israel of partition days was able to make peace with its neighbors, never developed nukes, never took additional land and knew know wars. I guess the Israelis had a gun to the head of every arab leader who declared war after partition was announced. Or maybe its just the way the conspiratorial jews get things done. Mike PS Did you note in one of Marcos posts where he claimed the Jews came to europe and were insular without any understanding that they may have been forced to be that way. There are all kinds of jews in the US today just as there were in europe and most are fully integrated. Maybe Marcos thinks that back in europe all the jews were either insular hasidim or "Rothchild bankders" financing a vast Jewish/Zionist conspiracy.