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To: tejek who wrote (230399)4/23/2005 4:44:20 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573242
 
Ted, let me put it this way. Most of those who deny Jesus' existence place a very high standard on the proof of his existence, much higher than, say, the proof that any of the Roman Caesars ever existed. The only justification for such a double standard is formed on the basis of this statement, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

The only problem is that these particular skeptics can't separate the extraordinary claim of Jesus' Lordship from the mundane claim that Jesus existed as a real human being. Most non-believers can, which is why they have no trouble believing that Jesus existed, even if they don't believe he really is the son of God. To me, that's more objective than those who feel a need to deny Jesus' very existence, perhaps IMO because they're either desperate or they just want to stick it to those "Jesus freaks."

Tenchusatsu



To: tejek who wrote (230399)4/23/2005 10:15:51 AM
From: SilentZ  Respond to of 1573242
 
>And even though he is an atheist, Z had a similar reaction. At first, he even chided me for suggesting that Jesus did not exist; I think he said that he thought Jesus existed but that he wasn't divine.

Yup.

>And then, he said that a friend who just grad. from divinity school offered that Jesus might have been a well known religious figure or a compilation of well known religious figures from that time.

Oh, he's more than a recent graduate -- he's been out for some time now and is the editor of a major online religious publication.

>The evidence against that is so strong that's its changed my views [and I suspect Z's too]on Jesus that I have held since childhood.

Not entirely changed, but I think it's 'cause I'd rather not have them changed here...

-Z