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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (160935)	4/23/2005 5:18:08 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 281500

Kurds seem to make it less difficult than others to sympathise with their cause, they're bright organised people with a respect for education ... they'll be able to get further down the road to whatever they want, and let's hope for their sake and the sake of all concerned that what they end up wanting is not an Excludostaat This business of saying, 'you have no formal state so we are going to take your land as a homeland for our people, so you bugger off now', apply that to the kurds to see how absurd it is, or conversely, imagine the kurds saying that to the shi'ite of Basra Having a state is not all candy and balloons, however - my sister's friend is married to an east anglian who was born in Jerusalem, he went to get a new canadian passport and the brain trust du jour in the passport office said he had to have a country in the birthplace part of the application form - no country, no passport, period ... on his previous ones it didn't seem to matter, but now it did, go figure ... and, get this, it wasn't so much that Jerusalem was not a country, it's just that whatever was in that space could not be the same as the city or province or whatever ... so what do people born city of México do, you wonder, i guess chilango-canucks just do without ... anyway he really enjoyed the lengthy discussions involved, especially since he missed an important trip on account of them ... eventually he found a way quite high up the ministry ladder and threatened to publicise the whole thing, he'd kept good records, notes of phone calls and all, so a few days later, bingo there's his passport in the mail ... kurds could learn from this, that there are tricks to having a state, and one is to try to keep the retards out of your bureaucracy