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To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 9:24:11 AM
From: John Carragher	Respond to of 793955

if you flew us air you are lucky you got into and out of the airport.

To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 11:03:05 AM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793955

..I'm down 1100 messages. Sounds like you missed four days. We have turned into the "bleeding sisters of eternal misery" discussion group since the Pope got elected. I expect someone will post any minute just how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin. Hopefully, we will get off the subject soon. I have gone from an average of eight airline round trips and 50K miles driving a car a year; to no plane trips and never behind the wheel of a car in the last four years. It's a lot less hassle on the moped. So I feel for you airline travelers, but I can't find ya.

To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 12:15:12 PM
From: Alan Smithee	Respond to of 793955

Michael your post brings to mind my recent experience at Kahalui Airport on Maui. We entered the queue leading to carry-on screening. There, a nice lady examined our boarding passes and ID's. Then we got to the X-ray machine, where another white-shirted TSA employee shepherded our carry-on bags onto the belt and also examined our boarding passes and ID's. Then, it was two steps over to the walk-through magnetometer, where yet another white-shirted, government employee TSA wonder (who appeared to be just standing there, leaning against the machine) asked to see our boarding passes yet a third time. Government inefficiency at its worst.

To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 2:48:29 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

Hi Mike...Be glad you aren't out here this weekend...The transportation folks decided that they needed NOT to work at nights on the roads for the next month or two, BUT they could "only do the work during the day" on 1-5....I-5 the major interstate north and south from Alaska to Mexico....They are completely closing two lanes to an already heavy traffic load...and the Mariners are in town, the Sonics have a home game, and the U-2 a concert all in downtown Seattle this weekend. Plus the normal hundreds of things going on... Yes, sir....in addition to raising the gas tax for the State another 9 1/2 cents per gal, making us now the 2nd highest in the US next to NY, these government folks continue to show us their 'finest' work..... The weather is beautiful though (83 yesterday!!) ... you would really like it!

To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 3:12:03 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Respond to of 793955

Michael, I travel by air frequently. I think the whole airport inspection process is much better under TSA - the inspectors are far more courteous. I have not been through the Philly airport though in years. The last time out that way we flew into Allentown and drove. Bob

To: greenspirit who wrote (110826)	4/23/2005 5:35:21 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793955

Top Secret Submarine Tactics Revealed by James Dunnigan April 22, 2005 strategypage.com American submariners are fighting hard to get money to replace their rapidly ageing boats. It’s an uphill fight. Submarines haven’t been used much in combat for over sixty years. That means they have not had a chance to prove how useful submarines can be. So the submariners are letting slip information on some of the important, but top secret, work they do perform. First it was news of the Cold War missions to tap into Russian undersea communications cables. Then there were the revelations about the use of subs to deliver SEAL commandoes, or even marine raiding parties. The latest revelation is that SSNs accompanying carrier task forces are using special antennas (design details are definitely not discussed) that allow the subs to collect electronic traffic in areas carrier task forces have just left. This is useful because it's become common for hostile nations (North Korea, China, Iran, France, Etc.) to shut down a lot of wireless communications and radars when an American carrier task force is in the area. This is because it is common knowledge that intelligence specialists on these ships monitor the local electronic traffic and collect useful information. To get around this, the SSN accompanying the task force will linger after the carrier leaves, and wait until the locals turn their electronic gear back on. Since the SSNs are very hard to detect, there’s not much the locals can do about this. Moreover, you never know when an American SSN is slinking offshore, using its special antenna system to capture whatever is in the air.