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To: Win Smith who wrote (101778)4/25/2005 10:52:50 AM
From: Bill  Respond to of 108807
 
What a bunch of bs.



To: Win Smith who wrote (101778)4/25/2005 11:25:32 AM
From: ManyMoose  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Let's agree on this: eleven separate execution dates, sometimes receiving a stay just hours before he was due to die. Is this torture? It is, by most people's definition.

Who then are the torturers? We who must live with each other and cannot tolerate murderers amongst us? Those whose grim duty it is to act for us?

Or those standing outside the prison with their candles, delaying the painless inevitable and turning it into excruciating agony for condemned, survivor, hangman, and witness alike?



To: Win Smith who wrote (101778)4/25/2005 2:37:11 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
There is a lot to read on Dobie Williams death- it seems he may really have been innocent. Many people think so. Thanks for posting that article. Helen Prejean is a woman who lives her faith. That's admirable.

" For the first time, I believe, I befriended a truly innocent man on death row. Innocence or guilt does not matter to me in struggling against the death penalty. I do not believe the state should be torturing and killing people, even guilty people. But this man, Dobie Williams, a 38-year-old indigent black man, I believe, was railroaded to death for the death of a white victim in a small, racist Southern town. He fit the death row profile perfectly, especially in the South: a poor black man accused of killing a white woman with an all-white jury as the constitutionally guaranteed "jury of his peers." He had a terrible defense -- no defense. The prosecution got everything they asked for -- including Dobie's death last night -- after 14 years and 12 death dates and stays of execution. But inside the crucible of this terrible ordeal Dobie grew. He grew in faith, in love, in his ability to communicate and feel tenderness, to give of himself to family and friends, to know and love Christ, who became his rock and his protector and friend even as he climbed onto the gurney and was able to forgive those who had wronged him."

rtis.com

It's a hard story to read- and I don't think anyone who reads his story, and really thinks about, can just blow off this story. You could blow it off without reading it, but if you're for the death penalty, and can't read Dobie's story without feeling some shame, you probably ought to change your mind...