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To: Zakrosian who wrote (111117)4/25/2005 3:37:32 PM
From: michael97123  Respond to of 793868
 
I agree but it aint a sure thing so:

1. Our govt should be competely honest and transparent.
2. The iraqi stag-nation should be prodded to creating their new govt. I suggested a timetable as a cattle prod.
3. Folks who blame the media and suggest iraqis majority opinion is that each american soldier should get a flower each day are hopelessly naive. Iraqis all want us out at some point, with the possible exception of the kurds.
4. A united federal, somewhat democratic iraq is the ideal.
5. If we cant accomplish the above, then at some point we need a fallback position like 2 outta three states aint bad to replace the current stag-nation situation.
6. In case #5, Save the kurdish democracy--yipes another israel in the making and let the shiaa have their islamic state--yipes the iranians are coming.

Personally i dont think many on this thread or conservatives in general have thought this all through. Am i the voice of reason or the voice of treason as UW might have you believe? (I didnt think we were winning in vietnam or the SV regime had the support of the indigineous folks either and UW says because of folks like me back then we lost) Did he ever hear of LBJ and MAC and NIXXON. I just dont want that end for this war and some hard headed realism must be sprinkled in with the ideology.



To: Zakrosian who wrote (111117)4/25/2005 4:00:43 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 793868
 
There may very well be a Silent Majority of Arabs/Muslims who are willing to peacefully coexist with us infidels, even including the Israelis. If so, then the neocons' blueprint for the Middle East could make the sacrifice worthwhile

That is indeed the bet. Nobody can impose democracy and make it stick if the people don't want it. The bet is, they do want it, or at least some form of accountable decent governance. TWT.