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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (161047)4/26/2005 4:55:43 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Some of the effendi class sold specific pieces of land, yes, it is deceptive of you to make this out to be more than it is ... even by 1947 it was certainly less than seven per cent of Palestine, and earlier on, say by the first significant palestinian reaction of 1920, it was far less, something like two per cent then, if memory serves

So you speak ninety-three per cent falsehood here, minimum ... actually more, because the fellaheen rarely if ever sold anything as willing sellers, it was a bizarre form of land tenure that the turks had imposed, complex, corrupt, grossly unfair to the peasants, in taking advantage of it zionists were knowingly screwing them too ... they boycotted native labour, locked up land legally so no native could buy it back, formed terrorist gangs, anything to push out the indigenous

All of which you know well, imho, it is not possible to have promoted this thing for so long and to have the grasp of detail you do and still fail to see that ethnic cleansing and violence were inherent in zionism from the very start

Did the indigenous have nationalistic ambitions, probably not much in 1916, probably a lot more in 1918, once they'd helped to beat off the turks and been promised in return help in forming nations .... but even before, this doesn't help you justify the ethnic cleansing, unless you claim that only people with governments you approve of should have human rights

'Nobody forced them.' - migod you are particularly blatant tonight ... nobody forced tens of thousands out at gunpoint from one little area around Lydda and Ramle alone? - bullshit ... an airport covers that now, among everything they bulldozed there was the grave of St George ... some of the terrorist gangs got going early, when did Haganah start up, not long after Balfour, and some of them would just as soon shoot a brit as a native, brits took a lot of casualties there trying to keep the peace

Well that's an especially obvious lie, first one so clear and outright since 'there is no canaanite language', it's been days and days ... 'nobody forced them', hmmm, well good luck convincing anybody of that