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To: epicure who wrote (102058)	4/26/2005 1:47:03 PM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108807

Is such a "qualified apology, really an apology? ;-) jeff@stirringthepot.com

To: epicure who wrote (102058)	4/26/2005 8:52:54 PM
From: E	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I've no idea what the veiled threat was Sure you do. Here it is: "That's a better problem to have than some others I could mention." and to unveil a bit what it is you "could mention," your clarification is this: "Use your imagination, or better yet, your own experience. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In my opinion, you are being disgustingly harassed in the present for what is, secretly, political reasons. If you were the same person and intellect in every way except that you were RW, Bill and his like would not be offended by your manner. And incidentally, I think it's pointless for the past victims of your unkindness to ask for an apology, because you have said explicitly on SI that you "don't believe in apologies." Oddly enough. I also think, though, that you have just updated the horridness your displayed when Poet was being harassed in a manner that makes what you're being subjected to look like child's play. (The sympathy I had developed for the situation in which you find yourself is considerably lessened by this display, I must say.) You dare to call what you are going through harassment, but CH, who issued actual, concrete, specific threats -- blackmail -- to Poet unless she would continue to interact with him (or as he put it, "If I get what I want, you'll get what you want, it's a win win situation"), made sexual insinuations, sexual allusions, stalked her from thread to thread and site to site, talked online about her children and family life, did it despite pleadings from her husband that he stop.... while pretending on IHub to be a minister of the gospel. and you characterize your persecutors as "harassers" and hers as merely "someone else you considered a harasser." [itals mine] Kind of implies there is some question about it. What actually happened in my opinion is that you wanted, for some dark, right hemisphere reason that no one on SI, not even your friend Rambi, comprehended, to side with the abuser against his victim, so invented the notion that he was being mistreated so you could encourage and champion him. In fact, the "mistreatment" consisted of a number of posters of varying political persuasions asking the man to stop sexually stalking and blackmailing a female poster who was becoming increasingly fragile. If he'd stopped, that would have been the end of it! Period! Finis! CH would not have been in the position of apparently eternal persecution in which you unfortunately find yourself. I tried myself by PM to devise face saving ways for him to stop. He wasn't interested in ending it. And he had your attention, too, didn't he...his supportive posting buddy. And look, it's still someone else's fault, not CH's, apparently: "I acknowledge I never realized the lengths to which people like you will go in order to validate their group actions, and their version of reality." In your version of reality, ion, was what happened to Poet not that bad, really? The extent of the "group actions" was to demand a sexual stalker/blackmailer simply stop the sexual stalking and threats. Guess what would have ended the "group action." (It's a shame you don't believe in apologies. You could have made at least this element in your current bizarre harassment situation, which situation I acknowledge is real, go away so easily.)