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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (161088)4/26/2005 2:51:50 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So you say ... i'll reserve judgment pending evidence, which evidence may never appear - there were a lot of zionists saying a lot of things, in those days ... sort of like these days, you alone say a lot of things, some are true, some clearly not

Odds of one zionist suggesting removal of the Dome would have been fairly good, imho, and that's all it would have taken for the mufti, or he may have just made it up, doesn't matter ... in any case, he had abundant evidence that zionists had designs on the whole country, since while some were being careful talking about a Heimstätte, 'homeland', a few others would let it slip about der Judenstaat from time to time, and that was the name of Herzl's book, which was obviously known to the natives ... it is pointless for you to pretend that natives did not perceive the threat

'Arab national feeling did not yet exist.' - depends on the year you pick, and is probably arguable then ... certainly soon after the brits arrived in late 1917, the idea of self-government became thinkable, due to promises to the arabs for helping beat off the turkish empire, Allenby was welcomed to Jerusalem quite heartily ... likely also the 'it being clearly understood' line of the Balfour thing, which appeared to mean that their right to self-determination would not be denied by the british ... Wilson's fourteen points and the stated principles of the League of Nations come into it all, in the 1919-to-say-1925 period, these ideas flew far and fast, it is reasonable imho to expect the natives of Palestine to have heard of them, and at least begun to dream of empowerment ... add in the mufti, and poof, potent mix

Without zionism there would have been no struggle against zionism, that does seem rather plain.