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To: BubbaFred who wrote (62890)	4/27/2005 6:14:47 PM
From: 8bits	Respond to of 74559

"British occupied the territory and brutally killed more than 1,000,000 people" Your statement above. "Could you tell us when and where this happened? Not the occupation - I've read about Younghusband's expedition - but the killings. I recall a very one-sided battle, in which the Tibetans were slaughtered, but the number was 1000s at most." Gibbogle's statement above. Quotes from your posts: "His forces secured control of the country in 1904 but only after a series of bloody conflicts, including a massacre at Chumik Shenko, which left as many as three thousand Tibetans dead." "This earned Younghusband a knighthood. The small matter of deliberately disobeying official instructions was quietly overlooked. What was also overlooked was the fact that en route to Lhasa, Younghusband’s force carried out in Chumik Shenko, near Guru, a massacre of approximately 600 Tibetans. Younghusband, at least, had the grace to admit privately that he himself was horrified by the massacre." "The Maxims chattered vindictively. A young officer wrote home that night “I got so sick of the slaughter that I ceased to fire. Worse still, the Tibetans did not flee. They walked slowly away, heads bowed, ignoring the bullets that continued to mow them down until nearly 900 were lying dead and wounded on the field. The British had six minor casualties." So it appears from your our links that Gibbogle is correct. No doubt the British killed many people but Gibbogle never said they didn't, he said thousands but not the 1 million people you asserted. Your statements about Japanese revision are a straw man arguement unless you can point out where Gibbogle has denied Japan's criminal activity in the earlier part of the 20th century. I am very open to a critque of Western media's portrayal of China current behavior but hyperbolic statements are not productive. I think the British Army and CCP have both made tremendous errors and have killed many people. No need to excuse one for the actions of the other.

To: BubbaFred who wrote (62890)	4/28/2005 3:57:49 AM
From: Gib Bogle	Respond to of 74559

I don't recall mentioning Japan. The Tibet quote may be from the book about Younghusband that I read - 600 killed, versus your number of 1 million. There are a lot of peculiar people on the internet. My fear is that they are representative of the world at large.