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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sully- who wrote (60552)4/28/2005 9:21:31 PM
From: Sully-Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
The more-or-less authorized history of Kerry in Vietnam, Douglas Brinkley’s 2004 book “Tour of Duty,” puts Mr.Kerry’s action on Christmas Eve in Vietnam “as they were approaching the Cambodian border” and “not far from the Cambodian border” and “only miles from the Cambodian border” and “getting close to Cambodia.” “Tour of Duty” never places Mr. Kerry in Cambodia during the young lieutenant’s four-month tour in Vietnam. The book says that in October of 1968,the U.S. Navy “took great pains” to observe the border.

Mr. Kerry has repeatedly claimed he was in Cambodia.
In the October 14,1979, issue of the Boston Herald-American, Mr. Kerry wrote,“On more than one occasion, I, like Martin Sheen in ‘Apocalypse Now,’ took my patrol boat into Cambodia. In fact, I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian border being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real.”

Speaking in the Senate on March 27, 1986, Mr. Kerry said, “I remember Christmas of 1968 sitting on a gunboat in Cambodia. I remember what it was like to be shot at by the Vietnamese and Khmer Rouge and Cambodians, and have the president of the United States telling the American people that I was not there; the troops were not in Cambodia. I have that memory which is seared — seared — in me.”

A June 16, 2003, dispatch in the Boston Globe recounts the Christmas Eve action and reports, “To top it off, Kerry said, he had gone several miles inside Cambodia, which theoretically was off limits.”

A June 1, 2003 profile in the Washington Post has Mr. Kerry carrying around, in a secret compartment of his briefcase, what the candidate described as, “My good luck hat,Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia.”



To: Sully- who wrote (60552)4/28/2005 9:43:26 PM
From: American SpiritRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Ah ha, thank you. You just proved Kerry was telling the truth.

You wrote he said he was 5 miles from the Cambodian border, not "in Cambodia" as you rightwing liars claim. In fact, the LA Times in-depth map-reading and calculation concluded Kerry could have easily been within miles of the Cambodian border. How many miles no one knows, including Kerry. Maybe he was even 30 miles away, but who cares? Plus, Kerry was clearly in Cambodia. The Phoenix Program ran missions up there all the time and Swifties were their taxis. Kerry told me personally that it was just like Apocalypse Now without Marlon Brando. They ever water-skied and surfed.

Of course the rightwing still denies the CIA's Phoenix Program existed. It's still classified top secret. The Smearvets in particular are still taking part in that cover-up. The PP where SpecOps were used as assasins to terrorize hamlet populations, and yes they did disembowel and behead some of their victims as JK claimed in front of congress.

Talk off record to any Nam era Special Operator. They'll tell you the Green Ghosts performed awesomely, though many of them went out of their minds. Killed hundreds if not a few thousand. But they neded SWities to ferry them. Choppers were too noisy. Very gung-ho stuff, but not something rightwing vets like to talk about.