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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Greg or e who wrote (19871)4/30/2005 11:06:49 AM
From: Solon  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 28931
 
"Your mantra-rantra about the "Evil" God of the bible, humorously reveals your own undeniable belief that an objective and transcendent standard exists by which one can judge Good from Evil."

I completely deny a belief that any transcendent standard exists to "judge" good and evil. The very words are merely usages of convention that nicely complement a natural polarity of thought. As well, the usage reflects centuries of religious conditioning.

Humans judge what is right or wrong. And in civilized countries we use standards of human rights, rules, and regulations developed by humans to reflect particular standards developed within community. Generally we use a "Judge"--sometimes with the assistance of a "Jury". This judgment of morality is quite different in Iraq, a Hutterite Colony, or a Nez Perce Reserve.

Personally, I prefer to think in terms of what is helpful or hurtful as this more accurately reflects the subjectivity of the matter and is meaningful as to how to develop social and cultural ethics which honor group and individual circumstances and differences.

You continue to equate "God" with "good" and therefore beg the question of the Absolute existence of the two as well as the Absolute relationship. I deny any evidence of the truth of either premise and certainly would give neither any axiomatic validity.

"So which is it? No God and no Evil; or real Evil and a real God?"

All the evidence the world over shows morality to be relative to country, culture, community, religion, etc. You may not be aware of it but the self proclaimed arbiters of morality (the myriad religious sects) are fighting on a continual basis (and have done so for countless centuries)--over whose version is correct!

As to a God--this is also not evidentiary in any way; even were there to me a number of Gods co-ruling (for some unknown reason)--this, or another planet or universe--there is no reason to assert that the ethics for human interaction should reflect an Absolute basis or Will. Indeed...such "Gods" would be needlessly ignorant of humanity and all the other living creatures They supposedly created--were They to choose an Absolute morality over a relative morality--which respects and regards individual, group, and species differences.

"if God exists then He, not you, is the arbiter of what and who is good or evil, in which case we are all in trouble"

This is a conditional premise and bears no cause or consequence in the real world. But we certainly ARE in trouble if the the Nationalists, Racists, and religious Nowitalls continue to disregard and disrespect the opinions and rights of others because they are the privileged few on the yellow brick road to meet a humbug wizard.