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To: Amy J who wrote (180947)	4/30/2005 2:07:26 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 186894

RE: "there are a lot of other ways to screw over employees " Such as ? here's a few: - hire an employee to do a critcal product feature for your next release, due in approx 10 mos (most "new releases" take about a year or less.) Lure the employee away from his/her current comfy, high paying job with stock options. - employee comes, does the work and at the end of the R&D is re-orged into a "new position". - employee (who is likely a specialist in the key area he/she was hired for) fails in the "new position", at which point they are fired for performance, and receive none of the lucrative options package promised for the primary job done. -or- - promote in idiot manager for the specific purpose of eliminating anyone who has the misfortune of working for him. - reorg an expensive employee under Mr. X after he is done providing whatever key functionality you needed him for. etc etc! One job I would never want, or ever take, is the job of personnel at some of these companies. A lot of these personnel depts end up as nothing more than professional liars for the executives.

To: Amy J who wrote (180947)	4/30/2005 4:18:14 PM
From: Proud_Infidel	Respond to of 186894

Interesting chart: Message 21280700 Perhaps INTC investors are not so crazy after all;-)

To: Amy J who wrote (180947)	5/1/2005 12:06:04 AM
From: Tenchusatsu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Amy, So people complain employers have the upper hand right now? My response was only meant for Ali. In this time of pessimism, even great earnings (as Brian posted) and strong fundamentals isn't enough to get employers to compete with each other for talent. However, one thing is for sure: stock options just don't attract like they used to. Kind of funny how they're going to be expensed when most people think they'll end up worthless anyway. Now to the "off-topic" topic: Saw your post on AMD - I think they should fine the lady $1M for her potentially wrongful claim, which is what Wendy's lost in revenue due to her "finger in chili" claim. I doubt the lady has that much to begin with, which is why I suggested the "Fear Factor" punishment after all of her assets have been liquidated. Too bad that even after all that, she's still likely to be a cheat and a liability to society. Social service agencies all around the nation ought to beware ... Tenchusatsu