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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (231220)4/30/2005 3:17:53 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571208
 
Yes, he's effective.......at playing dirty.

If you were correct, then he could be a Democrat. But you are just being partisan.


Okay, Peter, drop the pretense. For months now, we've been hearing what an honorable person you are. Honorable people do not defend Delay and Gingrich.

The guy's a pig. Not only did he behave criminally, he left is wife when she was sick so he could be with another woman.

You are talking about Kerry, right?


No, that was Gingrich but then you knew that.

The venue was not hostile. The host was a conservative on a conservative show [he's on MSNBC.....its called [blank] country

Marlborough is a liberal on a liberally biased network. I can see why you call him conservative though. He is only about 10 degrees left of center. He was a Republican Representative who left his wife for a bimbo. When the good people in his district discovered what a duplicitous conniving piece of work he was, he became unelectable as a Republican. He chose not to run under his true party affiliation. Now he is the showpiece conservative on a liberal network. He makes the liberal McCain look conservative. And I have seen him rip into conservative guests to placate his liberal masters.


Hmmmm........you don't even know his real name but you are sure you understand his politics. He was a GOPer from a conservative part of FLA. He is no liberal. His real name is Scarborough and here is his bio:

en.wikipedia.org

BTW Westword One is a conservative media outlet. Peter, you disappoint over and over again.

"Clinton was more than a sicko, he was the cause of the Democrat party be identified as the immoral party they are."

It is called an immoral party only by the pervy GOP where the real immorality roosts.

In my eyes, Clinton is a hero and will go down in American history as a great president, assuming we continue to have a free society in the future.

Clinton is just an immoral lying sicko. He wrote his own legacy as Sex between the Bushes. The fact that you defend the sicko is ample evidence of your partisanship.

what offends me about Delay is his abuse of power.

Let me contrast this against a statement that only a partisan or a fool could make.

Clinton is a hero and will go down in American history as a great president


I am glad you have finally seen the light.

Clinton and his wife abused power like no President before.

Get serious! What did he lie about?

It is not the subject that matters, it is the fact. It is black and white. Clinton is black. And I mean that in the sense that he is either evil or criminal.


The subject and the degree of the crime do matter. That's why you don't go to prison for ten years for stealing a stick of gum.

Clinton was the best thing that has happened to this country in a long time and it made the GOP furious. The GOP rarely comes up with quality.

You accuse Tom DeLay of minor infractions but forgive Clinton for giving the Chinese our nuclear secrets, launch technology, and who knows what else? Just those two together equals the ability to hit the US with ICBMs. Does that make you feel safer?

Done. Its time to take a break.



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (231220)4/30/2005 3:32:53 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571208
 
Swindler on a Gusher

By MAUREEN DOWD

WASHINGTON

The Iraqis have thrown us another curveball.

Ahmad Chalabi - convicted embezzler in Jordan, suspected Iranian spy, double-crosser of America, purveyor of phony war-instigating intelligence - is the new acting Iraqi oil minister.

Is that why we went to war, to put the oily in charge of the oil, to set the swindler who pretended to be Spartacus atop the ultimate gusher?

Does anybody still think the path to war wasn't greased by oil?

The neocons' con man had been paid millions by the U.S. to tell the Bushies what they wanted to hear on Iraqi W.M.D. A year ago, the State Department and factions in the Pentagon turned on him after he began bashing America and using Saddam's secret files to discredit his enemies.

Right after the invasion, the charlatan was escorted into Iraq by U.S. troops and cultivated an axis of Americans, Iraqis and Iranians. He got a fancy house with layers of armed guards and pulled-down shades, and began helping himself to Iraqi assets. The U.S. occupation sicced the Iraqi police on his headquarters only after an Iraqi judge ordered thugs in the Chalabi posse arrested on suspicion of kidnapping, torture and theft.


Newsweek revealed that the U.S. suspected Mr. Chalabi of leaking secret information about American war plans for Iraq to the Iranians before the invasion, and of perhaps leaking "highly classified" information to Iran that could "get people killed" if abused by the Iranians. Mr. Chalabi claimed the Iranians set him up.

In August of last year, while he was at a cabin in the Iranian mountains, the Iraqis ordered him arrested on counterfeiting charges, which were later dropped for lack of evidence.

Now, showing survival skills that make Tom DeLay look like a piker, the resourceful Thief of Baghdad has popped back up as one of the four deputy prime ministers and the interim cabinet minister controlling the one valuable commodity in that wasteland: the second-largest oil reserves after Saudi Arabia. He even has a DeLay-like talent for getting relatives on the payroll: a Chalabi nephew is the new finance minister.

Anthony Cordesman, a Middle East expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, told Reuters that many Iraqis would consider the plum oil job for Mr. Chalabi "putting a fox in charge of the henhouse." The choice, he added, "is going to make it extremely easy for people to make charges about corruption."

Oil isn't on the front burner only in Iraq. Mr. Bush and Dick Cheney know that time is running out to pay back the Texas buddies who sent them here with an energy bill. So those two oilmen are frantically pushing one loaded with giveaways to the oil industry at a time when it's already raking in huge profits because of high gasoline prices.

In Baghdad, we may wind up with a one-man Enron - never underestimate the snaky charmer. And the draconian efforts of Mr. Chalabi and other Shiites in power to purge Baathists from the government will breathe fire into the insurgency.

Mr. Bush wanted Iraq to have a democracy like ours. It's on its way, nearing an ethics-free zone where a corrupt official can hold sway and a theocracy can curb women's rights.

Another big winner in the new Iraqi cabinet is Moktada al-Sadr, the Shiite cleric who scurried away like a rat across the desert after he led two armed uprisings and caused a lot of American and Iraqi troops to die. His political movement got three ministries - health, transportation and civil society - and Sadr allies will try to give the scofflaw cleric legal protections so he can slink back into a leadership role.

Ayad Allawi, the Shiite who was supposed to keep the government secular and bring in Sunnis to blunt the insurgency, has been marginalized. That leaves the government to be ruled by men rooted in the sort of conservative Shiite religious politics that will not produce a new dawn of equality for Iraqi women.

The new prime minister, Ibrahim al-Jaafari, is a devout Shiite from the Dawa Party. As John Burns wrote in The Times yesterday, the Dawa Party was "fiercely anti-American during their exile years under Mr. Hussein, and Dawa was implicated by American intelligence in terrorist acts across the Middle East, including a 1983 bombing of the American Embassy in Kuwait."

The bad news: This is not an Iraqi government that will practice Athenian democracy or end the insurgency. The other bad news: If Dr. Jaafari falls, Ahmad Chalabi will be there to pick up the pieces.

nytimes.com



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (231220)5/1/2005 5:48:02 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571208
 
but forgive Clinton for giving the Chinese our nuclear secrets, launch technology, and who knows what else? Just those two together equals the ability to hit the US with ICBMs. Does that make you feel safer?

The Rosenbergs got old sparky for giving the commies the nukes.
But then again, they were Jewish...

Taro