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To: unclewest who wrote (111937)	4/30/2005 4:23:18 PM
From: Ish	Respond to of 793914

<<I can visualize the possibility of accidental, successive and related explosions in a refinery. I cannot visualize the possibility of successive explosions with separate ignition sources being anything other than a deliberate attack.>> The odds against two would be very high, 5 would be like winning 5 lotteries in one day. Mideastern man seen taking pictures of the area a few days before. Arab, oil, hit something that hurts the US economy, knock out a refinery that the US has too few of. When those guys get home look for a bragging tape on Al Jeezeria.

To: unclewest who wrote (111937)	4/30/2005 5:30:19 PM
From: LindyBill	Respond to of 793914

Houston, you have a problem. What made me say "coverup" was the report that the FBI said it was not terrorism before they even got on the site.

To: unclewest who wrote (111937)	4/30/2005 9:12:46 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793914

Checking google, there sure isn't much on those Houston explosions, especially when the reports were made a few days ago. That seems odd, especially since there were 15 killed, and over 100 injured. reuters.com chron.com galvestondailynews.com

To: unclewest who wrote (111937)	5/2/2005 11:43:08 AM
From: carranza2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793914

Not necessarily a cover up. I've been involved in refinery explosions, including modeling for their cause. In one case, a large cloud of inflammable gas that had somehow ecaped was touched off in at least two points by welders doing a turnaround, i.e., an extensive "remodeling" of the refinery. This could be more or less what happened here, at least according to this report: heralddemocrat.com The fact that a turnaround was involved heightens--at least to me--the possibility that it was simply an accident. They can be very dangeroous. click2houston.com chron.com It's called a "turnaround" because it goes on 24 hours a day until finished. In an effort to save costs, the refinery operators have increasingly used contractors instead of experienced employees who know the refinery like the back of their hand, creating more danger. galvestondailynews.com