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To: brian h who wrote (63311)5/3/2005 10:04:03 PM
From: brian h  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Apr 30, 2005

atimes.com

COMMENTARY

Why Japan's 'so sorry' doesn't wash in China
By Francesco Sisci

BEIJING - At a recent conference in Indonesia, Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi apologized to Asian countries for his country's invasions during World War II. It was certainly a positive gesture, but it is unlikely to appease the Chinese government totally.

The Chinese government does not really want apologies about the past, it wants the Japanese to call their invasion an "invasion" and not minimize it. Beijing also does not want to see future visits of senior politicians to the Yasukuni Shrine, where there are buried together veterans of Japanese wars and some convicted Class A war criminals.

It is difficult for Westerners to nail down what Beijing's position vis-a-vis Japan actually is, because West and East are literally a world apart on the matter of confessing to historic mistakes versus burying them. For its part, Beijing no longer calls the Tiananmen movement in 1989 dongluan (riot or major disorder), as did the official rhetoric at the time, but fengbo (disturbance, incident or controversy), or sometimes even simply liusi (June 4); similarly, Beijing no longer brings up the issue of the Cultural Revolution (1966-76) or the Great Leap Forward (late 1950s), meaning that Beijing wants these mistakes buried in the past.

The idea of burying mistakes, avoiding bringing them to the open to avoid embarrassment, is hugely different from the Western attitude. In general, Westerners, following Freudian analysis and the Christian concept of confession, think mistakes should be solved by revealing them in public (to the confessor or analyst). Chinese, and possibly East Asians in general, just want to bury them and never mention them again. There is no culture of confession like that which held sway in the West for hundreds of years. There, confession was the first step to redemption; in East Asia, confessions never brought forgiveness or redemption but just swifter punishment.

These sentiments emerge against the backdrop of conflicting ambitions. Both China and Japan are not satisfied with their present role in Asia, and hope for different and greater status.

Japan is fed up with being considered a political dwarf, and wants better representation for its economy, which is still the second-largest in the world, larger that those of China and India put together. (China supported India's request for a permanent seat at the United Nations Security Council, while opposing the Japanese bid.)

China is afraid that Japan's ambition for higher profile could be inspired by its imperial past to bully (if not invade, which is now out of fashion) its neighbors, including China. There are concrete instances supporting these fears. Take the issue of iron ore. At the beginning of the year Japan's steel industry and the world's largest iron company, the Brazilian Companhia Vale do Rio Doce, reached an agreement on the price of iron ore: on the basis of the 18.6% global price growth of last year, they increased the price by 71.5%, registering a historic price for iron ore. This increase in price will create great difficulties for the Chinese steel market and industry, which is highly inefficient, but it could be digested by Japan industry, which is more efficient. The Chinese feel this is bullying its steel industry out of the market.

And the troubles continue. The Japanese have made a joint decision with the United States openly to consider Taiwan a troubled area - and a key strategic concern of both nations. That's the truth, but it took away the fig leaf that Taiwan is solely China's domestic issue. Furthermore, on the very days of anti-Japanese demonstrations in China, Tokyo declared that Japan would open the area around the Senkaku (in Japanese)or Diaoyu (in Chinese) Islands, controlled by Tokyo but also claimed by Beijing, to oil prospecting. All of these are very concrete political and economic issues, which are clouded and muddled by the historical animosity.

If Tokyo gets a permanent seat on the Security Council, will it do worse than this? How much is the bullying on iron related to the issue of the Yasukuni war veterans' shrine? A lot, a little, none at all? China has not publicly linked the two issues of the iron ore and the demonstrations, and neither has Japan. However, officials of both government admit there is a tie. And, to roil the waters, the Chinese claim the Japanese twisted Russia's arms to have their hoped-for oil pipeline go to the north of the Korean Peninsula and bypass China, contrary to Chinese interests. China will be getting a railway spur.

In fact, both rivals shy away from all of this because both have skeletons in the cupboard, embarrassing historical bones that neither wants to display openly and discuss frankly. Chinese steel mills wanted to undercut Japanese mills and gain a larger part of the global steel market; Japanese steel wanted to avoid it and create difficulties for its Chinese competitors. It is a commercial tussle, but in such countries as China and Japan, given their past, any tussle can become overburdened and issues distorted by other feelings and fears.

How to make these undercurrents run smoothly? Westerners, who have an interest in the stability of the region, think they should bring the issues into the open and discuss them frankly. East Asians feel that approach would not work, and besides, they are not accustomed to such openness and shy away from it. They would rather go on shadow-boxing about it, second-guessing each other's movements.

If the West were not involved, then the situation would be simpler. But in this globalized economy, America and Europe are involved, and they should try to get a clear picture and not get hoodwinked by either of the parties, while being aware of Asian sensitivities.

The issues appear to be the following:
Japan no longer can endure the perceived role of political dwarf and wishes to fend for itself against a rising China, especially since Japan is not sure to what extent the US economy will still dominate in 10 or 20 years, when China's economy could well be twice or four times as large as it is now.
China is pulled by its youth, who want "revenge" against the "arrogant" Japanese; Beijing is also truly worried that Japanese politics is, or will be, hijacked by the right wing that minimizes the past horrors in order to seek some new kind of hegemony in the region. Things are further complicated because there is a new game in town. In the past centuries China was the regional hegemon and Japan paid tribute to the greatness of China. This changed about 100 years ago, when Japan defeated China and took over Korea and Taiwan. Then for the following decades, Japan was the main political, and then economic, force in the region.

This history raises the question: How will the two countries fare against each other? Will it be the old political paradigm, these two countries vying for hegemony in East Asia?

Can there be a new paradigm of relations in Asia without considering "hegemony"?

How large is the region? Should it be considered to include the South Asian subcontinent? What is or will be the role of Southeast Asia, the United States and Europe in strategic geopolitical thinking?

Perhaps these are the some of the real questions behind the wave of anti-Japanese demonstrations in China.

Francesco Sisci is the director of the Institute of Italian Culture in Beijing. This article represents his views alone and not those of the institute.





To: brian h who wrote (63311)5/4/2005 1:28:58 AM
From: shades  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 74559
 
As a round eye who likes to see lots of slant eye beat up on each other all the time - When do I get to see jackie chan and jet li kick each others ass? Is there a movie out where they both do battle?

I know jackie was in a few bruce lee movies right?

I mean what is Jet afraid of - he already let that crazy aussie mad max mel gibson and that brother of color in Lethal weapon kick his butt - 2 washed up western actors - jackie can only be an improvement from there no?

And where does Jet Li get off thinking - he is THE ONE - certainly Keanu Reaves is THE ONE - who copied who?



To: brian h who wrote (63311)5/4/2005 3:04:30 AM
From: TobagoJack  Respond to of 74559
 
Hello brian_h, <<Jay has every intention to keep China and Taiwan apart because Hong Kong is going to be a peace casualty>>

... actually, it doesn't matter to me one way or another.

... you forget, given that Hong Kong is the most free in the economic world, and that would be the first world that matters, and Hong Kong law is the best in the contract world, and that would be the second world that matters, Hong Kong is a convenient place to hang out at, just as Monaco, Bahamas, and Vegas are convenient places for some activities.

You see, by being neutral, I merely need to get a sense of the Force, and know the rules of the game, and I will then play in according to my standard, namely ... (mix & match)

Chaos is ...
Crisis is ...
Volatility is ...
Lonely path is ...
Survive is ...

... gift
... partner
... friend
... right way
... fight another day

Chugs, J



To: brian h who wrote (63311)5/4/2005 5:59:38 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Brianh, I think TJ is right and Hong Kong will retain its place. It's the abstract things which are truly valuable these days and huge geopolitical hegemony has had its day.

Devolution into letting a thousand flowers bloom and having black and white cats running around is the way to find out what works.

The USSR tried the centrally planned Kremlin method and it didn't work. Repression and poverty were the result. The capitalist maelstrom with millions of eddies and vortices in turbulent flow way above the human Reynolds Number is the way to find the best way.

Hong Kong is still, despite China's attempts at suffocation, top of the list of free places with protected property rights, contract law and civilisation. As MSFT shows, there's more to be made in abstract things than lumps of metal being bashed into objects.

Mqurice



To: brian h who wrote (63311)5/14/2005 8:24:48 PM
From: TobagoJack  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559
 
Hello Brian_H, Here is a puff piece by the august Wall Street Journal

online.wsj.com
“Ruling Party Wins Taiwan Election

TAIPEI, Taiwan -- Taiwan's ruling party won elections Saturday for a special assembly charged with amending the island's constitution, giving a big boost to President Chen Shui-bian's policy of resisting unification with rival China.

With 99% of the ballots counted, the Central Election Commission said the Democratic Progressive Party had won 42.5% of the vote, against 38.9% for the opposition Nationalist Party.

The vote -- for the ad hoc National Assembly -- had developed into a test of strength for Mr. Chen's policies, following the visits to China of Nationalist chief Lien Chan, and James Soong, head of the People First Party.

That party garnered only 6.1% of the vote, coming in fourth behind the Taiwan Solidarity Union, a pro-independence party, whose spiritual godfather is former President Lee Teng-hui. The TSU won 7% of the vote.

Mr. Chen's supporters had urged followers to vote in large numbers, saying that a vote against the Democratic Progressive Party was a vote for eventual unification with China …”


… that is factually not exactly wrong although truthfully not quite right.

Here is a bit of clarification by the slightly more professional BBC
news.bbc.co.uk
“Taiwan's Chen wins crucial vote

The party of Taiwan's president has won most seats in an assembly to change the constitution - a move China fears could lead to the island's independence.

Chen Shui-bian's Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) won 42.5% of the vote - the opposition Nationalist Party 38.9%, election officials announced.
Mr Chen will see the result as a vote of confidence in his policy towards China, says the BBC's Chris Hogg.

Beijing had tried to build support for anti-independence parties.

It invited opposition leaders to Beijing for historic talks in the run-up to the poll.

After the result, Vice-President Annette Lu congratulated the party and criticised China.

"I would like to thank the Chinese Communist Party, because each time there is pressure from China, the people show that democracy is what people embrace here in Taiwan," she said.

"One billion three hundred million Chinese friends on the mainland and (Chinese) President Hu Jintao, you have heard the voice of Taiwan's people, Taiwan belongs to its 23 million people."”


… and Chen, the Shui Bian, appears full of bravado, not exactly justified by the absurdly low turnout and the whopping but not quite 50% non-majority, meaning I suppose that (a) not many thinks the matter is worthy of a vote, (b) a few resignations to the inevitable, or (c) much of the population was washing their hair that day.

Annette, the Lu, is of course very funny, as usual.

I suppose next week the Japanese media will chant that the mainland Chinese ought not to try and split the 50/50 Taiwan Chinese down the 50/50 middle.

Sometimes I dream about setting up a platform that would allow the airing of obvious truth vs apparent facts, and permit the talking of sense to counter the spewing of nonsense, to educate in the true way as opposed to the ways of the left and right, and to of course champion the righteous and campaign against the evil, to basically take a sensible approach, work with the just is, and setup what can be.

Oh, well, must make do with SI BBR thread.

Chugs, TobagoJack