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To: unclewest who wrote (112524)	5/4/2005 1:17:49 PM
From: Andrew N. Cothran	Respond to of 793670

Uncle West: May I join you in a loud LOL!

To: unclewest who wrote (112524)	5/4/2005 2:22:45 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793670

ROTFLMAO. I get it. My expertise and first hand knowledge is inferior to your phony arguments based on an incident that you read about that occurred on another continent, 4 years after the fact. Your expertise and first hand knowledge about who formed what units when is all well and good, just not key to the question of whether Israel had the wherewithal for hostage rescue in 1972, which is the issue, at least for the digression du jour. Your comment above about commentators at the time (1972) basing arguments on a (then) demonstrated Isreali hostage rescue capability are a bald faced lie. Pure BS. Don't you think "bald face lie" is just a tad excessive? The Munich incident took place just a couple of months after the Israeli rescue of the victims of the Sabena hijack, a very well publicized event. With that event fresh in their minds, any reasonable commentators and viewers of the events in Munich would have thought, as did I, that the Israelis might just be equipped for the job. You seem to think it not only germane but critical that the Israelis have a formally organized specialist team. I think that accomplishments are key evidence of capability. Insisting repeatedly that the Germans should have used the non-existent Israeli hostage rescue team in 1972 was and remains your key error. Those of us outside that arcane little world don't give a damn if the Israelis pulled off Sabena using a recon team or the Tel Aviv High girls' field hockey team instead of a specialized hostage rescue team. The Israelis demonstrated to our satisfaction that they had the capacity. Your arguing organizational structure is not an effective rebuttal, it's a red herring. (Notice that my hard-to-get-along-with self is refraining from characterizing your argument with the L word. Notice also that my hard-to-get-along-with self referenced the 1972 high-profile hostage rescue obliquely in three consecutive posts to give you the opportunity to find a way to fit it into your argument. (Reference my post to Oral on the Italians.)) But that offer alone does not make it the best course of action. No, it may not have been the best course of action, all things considered. But I think that the Israelis deserve better than cavalier dismissal on the grounds that they weren't organized optimally. This has nothing to do with forgiveness. You're right on that one. "I was just kidding you."