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To: Wayners who wrote (44363)	5/4/2005 3:31:13 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

No. Read them for yourself. Jeezus was preceeded by a guy just like him that lived a hundred years earlier, casting a lot of doubt on the Jeezus myth.

To: Wayners who wrote (44363)	5/4/2005 3:40:05 PM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

the Essenes who were not Christians I believe this was the same sect that John the Baptist was a member, and so if the story be true then Jesus became a follower of what would be an offshoot of Essene theology. The Essenes frequently adopted orphans[39]; it is likely that John was orphaned at an early age. John spent his adolescence in the Judean wilderness; the Essenes were locally based at Qumran in the Judean desert. The Baptist and the Essenes had a shared interest in priestly matters and a priestly Messiah[40] and a shared focus on Isaiah 40:3[41] (albeit with different interpretations). Both parties adhered to Spartan diets and ascetical behaviour[42]. Similar interests in sacramentology also link the Baptist to the Essenes (in that John’s water rite was comparable to Qumran ablution rights). Of the three main Jewish sects, John the Baptist’s eschatological orientation is closest to the Essene position. However, there are also several points of incongruity between John and the Qumran community noted by Witherington; the most obvious being that in the Gospels, John the Baptist is not (or is no longer) part of the Qumran community. The reclusive mindset of the Essenes (to withdraw from the sin of society) is vastly different to the mission of the Baptist (to call the nation to repent from their sin). John allows ‘clean’ and ‘unclean’ people to come into contact with him[43] and did not believe in a ‘righteous remnant’ existing prior to repentance. The Baptist was seen as a political threat[44] in a way that the Qumran were not. John’s diet was typical of any eremite in the Judean wilderness, at most suggesting that he took a mantle on himself[45] or was performing a Nazirite vow. applesofgold.co.uk