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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (161405)5/4/2005 6:30:22 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Yes, my cousin was for a while married to a maori lawyer-to-be, nice lady but strong-willed, very sharp mind, cutting wit, physically imposing, two metres tall, you had to pity the poor pakeha, imagining her in court ... if you knew him it was quite funny really, sort of a reversed culture clash in microcosm ... every time you mention Helengrad and the feminazification of Gawdzone, it brings her to mind

One thing about NZ, is that all present realise they are immigrants ... the maoris know all the stories of the seven [or eight?] canoes coming from Hawaiiki ... also seeing the europeans arrive later than other places, and british at that, maybe they got somewhat more civilised treatment than did certain others such as congolese .... there were great wrongs done, they weren't entirely one-sided though

Assimilation is the most desirable course for nations living together in a country, imho ... indigenous land claims, righteous though they certainly are, interfere with the process of assimilation, as it becomes lucrative to prove oneself sufficiently indian, or maori, to get a slice of the settlement pie .... this is not sufficient cause to ignore injustice, imho, but it would be good to find a way to cut its effects ... time will eventually do this, but it takes a while



To: Maurice Winn who wrote (161405)5/4/2005 11:51:27 PM
From: Nadine Carroll  Respond to of 281500
 
I suppose compensation for stolen property would be a good place to start in Israel. That process is well under way here.


Offered many times, always refused because it would mean the end of the conflict, and the Arab countries never wanted the end of the conflict. Far too bloody useful. What, and give up The Great Excuse for Everything, are you kidding me?