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To: LindyBill who wrote (112616)5/5/2005 8:09:36 AM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793917
 
If you began reading these books at the start of the Tribulation, Jesus would return before you got to the end of the series. I can see some guy saying, "It's great about Jesus returning and all, but I regret that I'll never see how "Left Behind" came out."

"The Rising" by Tim LaHaye and Jerry B. Jenkins, the 13th in the astonishing 10-year sequence of Christian novels in the "Left Behind"



To: LindyBill who wrote (112616)5/8/2005 1:12:44 AM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793917
 
Giuliani -- The Makings of a Good President?

By Matt Friedeman, PhD
May 5, 2005

(AgapePress) - Some words are downright chilling. And, occasionally, they end up affecting the bigger picture; in this case, the presidential 2008 picture.

Last weekend on ABC News' This Week with George Stephanopoulos, broadcaster Pat Robertson tried to defend those who are suspected to bolt the GOP if someone like former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani were nominated.

Said Robertson: "I don't think so. Rudy is a very good friend of mine, and he did a super job running the city of New York. And I think he'd make a good president. I like him a lot. Although he doesn't share all of my particular points of view on social issues, he's a very dedicated Catholic. And he's a great guy."

Now I am not nearly so bright, and intelligent, and wealthy or powerful a man as Robertson. But "a good president"?

Define "good" without the naming of pro-lifers and strict constructionists to the federal bench. Define "good" without pro-family policies that lean right and thrill religious conservatives. Define "good" without taking a strong stand for traditional marriage and the discouragement of same-sex unions.

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights," Giuliani once said on CNN's Inside Politics. Asked whether he supported a ban on partial-birth abortions he replied, "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing." Define good with blood on your hands, AIDS rampaging homosexual America, while driving unrepentantly down the wrong side of the moral interstate.

Good? I don't think so -- and neither does Robertson. Change the name from Republican to Democrat and from Giuliani to Clinton, and we would have an all-out CBN war were this guy to get close to the nomination.

Here's the dangerous thing: because Robertson has come out of the gate with this pronouncement and because others in the religious right have sort of wondered along the same lines but dared not say what the famous broadcaster has, his admission gives permission for others to do the same.

It also causes a shift in the sentiments of some in the religious right. In chess -- and politics is all about such game theory -- you never make a move that doesn't change the entire rest of the contest. Every move affects every other move.

And this move by Robertson, friend of Giuliani or not, does indeed change a few things, is just plain wrong, bad for the party he loves, and bad for religious conservatism. What he should have said: "I have a personal relationship with Rudy and like him. I suspect, however, that the Republican Party will have a pro-life and pro-values candidate at its helm in the next election, and I, like Rudy, aim to fight hard for that candidate."

When one is on national television with cameras rolling, friendships are in the balance, and one's party needs defending from "narrow-thinking" charges, well, we are apt to say the darndest things.

Chilling, or apt to say the darndest things. Or both?

Regardless, conservatives in this country ought to be able to expect better from our leading voices.

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