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To: bentway who wrote (161471)5/5/2005 3:26:13 PM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Nadine can do the definitions better than I. To me a zionist is someone that believes all jews belong in Israel. Zionists like this make me uncomfortable. I am a supporter of israel and its right to exist. I am a supporter of a fair settlement with the Pals based largely on 1967 borders but also understand that facts on the ground change things on the margins as West Bank was never a country and always a disputed piece of land so i expect adjustments and compensation for those adjustments either in land or dollars or a combo.
Neocons are hardly zionists. Neocons hardly believe that God gave this land to anyone other than the Jews who lived them if indeed HE said that. Neocons believe israel has been and will continue to be a strategic ally, and a fellow democracy. MOst time policys of both countries are pretty similar. Sometimes not as IKE felt in 1956 as well as other times. Sometimes israel makes big mistakes like pollard and sometimes detractors of israel turn molehills into mountains like with the cia guy loose lips. And sometimes israel is right and the US wrong as in early 80s when saddam nukes went poof. Mike



To: bentway who wrote (161471)5/5/2005 3:45:23 PM
From: marcos  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
'the right to live there, by fiat accompli' - did you mean this as a rich latin-french pun with double entrendre? ... that's how it turns out .... to say it straight, in english, you mean 'by the right of conquest'.