To: Maurice Winn who wrote (161488 ) 5/7/2005 4:00:36 PM From: marcos Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 That's pretty funny, a maori genealogist who may turn out not to be maori, oops ... some similar stories here, one of a friend who is near if not completely full-blooded indigenous to the continent, yet not getting admitted to his wife's band because some clearly part-caucasian members didn't like his ideas ... 'too independent, not socially responsible enough, if this guy gets to run a business on the reserve then others may want one too' .... well, exactly ... the clash between views on land tenure is a hard one, tribal societies tend to want consensus before anything happens, this is deadly to people who would like to mind their own business, and leave others to mind theirs What is -papa in whakapapa, does it mean papa in english, papá in spanish, i.e. 'dad', or otherwise related to ancestry [must be] ... if so, interesting the similarity ... the other night my wife asked me if sweet potatos would be safe as baby food, in looking it up i found that the maya camote and the maori kumara are not just similar but are one and the same, as are others including the filipino batata, from which the spanish took the name 'potato' for the tuber whose americano cultivators called it papa, with accent on first syllable ... you have to wonder how indigenous imagined the Great White Holyman the spanish called el Papa, when they couldn't see it capitalised in conversation .... anyway this spread of kumara/camote, and the similarity of the names even, sort of reinforces in me the theory that people moved about the seas a long long time before euros started ballyhooing their own voyages as the first