To: fresc who wrote (5001 ) 5/6/2005 5:39:00 AM From: Gulo Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 37578 You are confused. We speak of two registries. The hand gun registry has been in existence since the 1930's or something like that. The hand gun registry, to my knowledge, never in its history been able to solve an otherwise unsolved crime by tracing the weapon to its owner. I have yet to hear of a single case in which the current long gun registry has solved a crime. It is hard to see, logically, how a crime could be solved through a registry unless witnesses happened to record the registration number of a gun. How likely is that? Proponents continuously claim, all evidence to the contrary, that the registry might someday help to trace a gun left at the scene of a crime to is owner. It might. To date, it has not done so. The reason is that guns are not usually left at the scene of a crime. I'm a great believer in the empirical method. Are you? The Canadian Firearms Centre is not an unbiased source of information. Point 1 relates to all second-hand purchases of any kind. Should we register everything? Point 2 was covered under the old legislation and is in no way an argument for registration. Point 3 is something firearms owners could live without, especially since you are a criminal if you allow your guns to be stolen. Point 4 is more than counterbalance by the great increase in the black market. Registered guns will slowly diminish in number as law-abiding citizens give up the continual cost and hassle. Point 5 contradicts itself. It acknowledges that police always assume firearms can be present because the registry can never be kept up-to-date, even if there was widespread compliance. Point 6 hasn't happened in 3/4 century of hand gun registration, why will it happen now? Points 7and 9 are largely true. High price, don't you think? Point 10 is patently false. The one thing about the previous system is that police could look an applicant in the face. They could then put efforts into deeper background checks for those they thought were at risk. Today, all you need is to have a couple of friends vouch for you. -g