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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (231826)	5/7/2005 3:38:18 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1572786

Ted, You want me to show secularist proof. Where's the religious proof that Lincoln was a God fearing Christian? I think it was pretty evident in that speech alone. Funny how it was originally used by TigerPaw to demonstrate Lincoln's supposed struggle between religion and secularism: Was it or was it a way to play to the masses? Most autobiographies of Lincoln suggest a man who was not very religious. In fact, one of his closest friends, Ward Lamon, accused him in a book after his assassination of being anti Christian. http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=21297203 Of course, like I said before, it all depends on what your definitions of "religion" and "secularism" are. Personally, I find it quite humorous to equate seances with secularism, but hey, I'm just a demanding, arrogant, self-righteous guy who doesn't have much to show for his beliefs. ;-) Such nonsense.........another convenient ducking done poorly. What are you afraid of? ;~) ted

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (231826)	5/8/2005 3:08:36 PM
From: TigerPaw	Respond to of 1572786

think it was pretty evident in that speech alone. Funny how it was originally used by TigerPaw to demonstrate Lincoln's supposed struggle between religion and secularism: You have to read a bit more history to understand the struggle. I might suggest you read The Lincoln Nobody Knows, (1958) by Richard Current. Lincoln's writings and speeches changed quite a lot during his tenure, and it is from the changes, not from any single piece, that that his evolving ideas on religon can be seen. TP