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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10655)	5/8/2005 10:04:46 PM
From: Rock_nj	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

O/T Do you think Gary Webb & Paul Wellstone both paid the ultimate price for their efforts to reveal and oppose the growing secret government in America? Webb definitely raise the powers ire with his insightful exposes of CIA complicity with cocaine running in the 1980s. Something that was later confirmed by the CIA's Inspector General. He apparently was about to do another investigative piece when he committed suicide. I heard his wife said he wasn't suicidal and didn't own a gun. Wellstone was also a major thorne in the establishment's side. Probably the most liberal and activist Senator. He was someone who constantly challenged the powers that be. His plane mysteriously crashed and even more mysteriously the NTSB was in the area on training and were able to reach the scene before anyone else (so they could cover up what happen?). I rate his death as highly suspicious and another indication that we are living in a quasi-dictatorship that will not tollerate real dissent.

To: Raymond Duray who wrote (10655)	5/9/2005 1:37:40 AM
From: Don Earl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 20039

RE: "Dr. Griffin has little to gain financially from his efforts" Weren't you the one who just posted that as a result of his book pitch on C Span, his books had moved up to #37 on the best seller list? RE: "Let's face reality. Dr. Griffin is vastly more effective than anyone on this thread at raising eyebrows among the American people." He certainly raised mine with making it a religious pitch, then basing it on an organization made up of three diametrically opposed sects, which all just happen to view the other two as the root of all evil. I can't think of a more effective tactic to alienate both the nonreligious and religious, in one swift master stroke. RE: "There is no smoking gun tying Mossad to 9/11." You are joking. Right? RE: "And avoid making accusations about Dr. Griffin's purported profiteering" If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, I'll likely call it a duck even if folks consider it unfair to the duck. About the last thing the so called 9/11 truth movement needs is another wannabe guru pimping his latest book, while anointing himself the new leader of a California style religious cult. I was more than a little impressed with the UK effort to distribute 17,000 DVDs. That might just possibly manage to reach people who haven't looked at the evidence. I remain unimpressed by those who repackage information others are distributing at their own expense, then sell that information back to the people who made it available in the first place. RE: "Somedays, Don, you just seem plain ornery." Quite possible. I just call 'em as I see 'em. Since I'm not peddling books, T-shirts or coffee mugs, it's not going to break my heart if not everyone agrees with my views.