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To: Knighty Tin who wrote (16295)5/9/2005 5:29:52 PM
From: T L Comiskey  Respond to of 361191
 
A scroll down memory lane

politicalhumor.about.com



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (16295)5/9/2005 5:50:19 PM
From: SiouxPal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361191
 
05.09.2005Mike Nichols
So, Now, Why Have You Called Us Together?

In directing a play or a movie-- whether a farce or a tragedy -- the problem to solve is really the same. There are the same questions. First of all why are we doing this? What`s our point? What are we telling? The audience says silently - so, now, why have you called us together? And you have to have an answer. The first thing I think you have to do is make clear that they are in good hands, they mustn't worry, we know what we are doing. The next question the audience asks is: why are you telling me this? And you have to have a good answer for that one. One answer is: because it's funny. Laughs are a good reason -- as we know daily from Jon Stewart. If that is not the answer in the theatre there is another: because it is your life.

I wonder lately whether our politicians don't have roughly the same requirements of them. When you think, for instance, of Barack Obama's speech at the Democratic Convention it met these requirements and continued with an eloquence based on both reality and metaphor, something we have not been hearing much.

I think that metaphor is in trouble. To take the bible literally, as fundamentalists do, is an attack on the greatest collection of metaphors we have. We need metaphor as we need stories. We need stories that mean more than just the events that transpire in them. Anyone who has read to children knows that the development of their entire personalities requires stories beyond the literal. They are the only way to understand and develop ideas. If we have, as de Tocqueville predicted, become pure market forces then we need to do CPR on metaphor pretty fast. Dr. King knew that an improved reality begins with a dream. In dreams begin responsibilities.



To: Knighty Tin who wrote (16295)5/9/2005 6:04:18 PM
From: Sully-  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361191
 
fix - to make firm, stable - to give a permanent or final
form to.....

From the leaked "secret" memo....

C reported on his recent talks in Washington. There was a perceptible shift in attitude. Military action was now seen as inevitable. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. The NSC had no patience with the UN route, and no enthusiasm for publishing material on the Iraqi regime's record.

timesonline.co.uk

So this "C" dude gave a verbal report that claims
that, "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the
policy", without direct attribution to Bush or his Admin.

I'm no expert in the nuances of the various dialects of
British English, but this sounds like much ado about nothing.
Sounds to me like the "intelligence and facts were being"
made firm & stable to give final form to their "policy".

But hey! if this verbal report by one person is enough to
completely nullify the Senate Intelligence Commission Report,
the Iraq Survey Group report & even the 9/11 Commission
report, have at it.

I'll stick with known facts rather than try to massage the
word "fixed" into some kind of smoking gun.