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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (34263)	5/10/2005 8:30:37 PM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Let me ask you a question: has the relative priceiness of your clothes increased? I don't know about European manufacturers, but American manufacturers are famous for false labelling: the more you pay, the smaller the label size, even though it encloses the same bulk. The European manufacturers generally have sizing that runs small, frequently causing a person to buy a size larger than US. So it's not a marketing ploy to make people feel better. More recently, I'm convinced that US makers across the board have downsized their sizing; IOW, what used to be a 6 is now a 4. There's the marketing ploy. ALso,there have always been some US lines that run large; e.g. Ellen Tracy. One has to be 5'10" tall to fit those clothes in the usual sizes one would buy. I've bought 2's and 4's in Ellen Tracy for years, and even some of those are large not to mention long<g> I recently fit into a "0"...lol. As a general observation, I do agree that the higher priced clothes tend to be more true to size or or even appear to be cut small, but again, these tend to be European. Max Mara and anything purchased at Bebe are small---probably because they cater to the younger crowd. One just has to be an educated shopper and not get excited about sizes. I just try on anything that looks likely to fit regardless of the listed size. My other half would probably insist that I'm "size phobic." In some respects that may be true. If I ever have to wear a double digit size that is not European, there would be much unhappiness and gnashing of teeth, particularly given the super-sizing of clothes these days. But that's another story...lol

To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (34263)	5/11/2005 5:24:12 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Don't get to feeling TOO superior. All I said was that US size norms have changed such that I was M and then became S and now XS, all the while staying at the same weight. How is that "feeling TOO superior"??? Sorry if that was a sensitive spot, Laz :-) The problem of obesity is spreading Yes indeed it is. Remember those artist's drawings of what our descendants will look like far in the future, with long thin bodies/arms/legs and huge heads? It looks like the human race is going in quite the opposite direction. Let me ask you a question: has the relative priceiness of your clothes increased? The honest answer will have to be: Yes, but only because I started shopping at haute couture names as my income bracket increased. American manufacturers are famous for false labelling: the more you pay, the smaller the label size, even though it encloses the same bulk. I don't shop in America often enough to be able to remember prices of comparable basic stuff, but that sounds like a very bizarre practice. How does the American consumer stand for this? Dear lady, you MUST get with it! And don't worry about the operative and anesthetic risks: if you die, you have nothing to worry about and if you live, you've got nothing to worry about. Err, it is mostly the pain aspect and the possibility of the surgeon doing something funny that can't later be changed back that puts me off. Ah well, maybe after a couple of kids, if I really have to :-) Adolph Hitler (Schicklegruber was his mother's name ... That's funny. No, I didn't know that. [Some of us REALLY have more time on their hands :-) ] We can try some other categories if you wish. How about wine? I think my home state will do just fine against France You really have to go on a pissing match re US vs France, don't you? :-) I would like to humour you on this, but I am afraid you will have researched much more and much deeper than my level of general knowledge on comparative culture/affairs/numbers etc of France vs US. And I do have time constraints. Let's remember that I am not French and don't even live in France, so my only claim to authority on all things French can possibly be that I speak the language. I do follow a couple of French magazines/papers/TV channels and so do pick up current issues to a certain extent, but I doubt if that will provide ammo for the level of bloody fight I feel you are gearing up for :-)