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To: Ish who wrote (103655)	5/10/2005 10:23:22 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

I know where a farmer started a state of the art hog farm where the hogs never touch the ground, roll around in the mud, and act like pigs. He quit a year or so ago because he calculated that he was making $3.50 an hour for his labor, not counting the risk he was taking. PS, It stinks.

To: Ish who wrote (103655)	5/11/2005 3:01:47 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Did you look at these photos yet? This is what factory farming is like for pigs. Some of the more revealing photos are at the bottom of the page. all-creatures.org I think we've had this argument before, and pretty well established that farmers do not have the complete right to abuse animals and pollute the entire environment with agricultural runoff and kill people with contaminated products. Also, you do not need to live on a farm to care about farming practices, or to know what they are. There is a wealth of information available on the web, not just animal rights sites but state and federal agriculture sites as well. Ish, I realize you have a really cool slaughterhouse near your house and everything, but the fact is that 80% percent of the pork in America is produced by factory farming. So if you raise pigs and are not factory farming them, they are part of the (relatively) lucky 20% raised without extreme cruelty and confinement. Hogs: Information & Resources The United States is the world's second largest producer, consumer, exporter, and importer of pork and pork products. Pork accounts for about a fourth of domestic meat consumption, with imports accounting for about 5 percent of that. The U.S. hog herd stands at nearly 60 million animals; about 68 percent of them are in the Corn Belt area, while another 20 percent of hogs are raised in the Southeast. About 80 percent of America's hogs are raised on factory farms. factoryfarm.org Do you keep pigs? If so, do they have access to the outside, and can they run freely, or are they confined? Are the mother pigs strapped down? Unless they run around outside and are not confined to small crates, that would be considered factory farming, because the pigs cannot enjoy the natural life of a pig. European pigs like to play with basketballs and footballs. They like balls hooked on chains, like tetherballs. What is the favorite toy of American pigs? Incidentally, the mere fact that pigs might have toys does not mean they being treated well. Factory farmed pigs are given toys to alleviate boredom and calm them down and distract them as they are led to slaughter.