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To: SiouxPal who wrote (16872)	5/12/2005 3:51:26 PM
From: T L Comiskey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 363045

Old dogs...old tricks straight from the mouth of 'Box Car'.. herself (with a mother like her.. who needs hemorrhoids...?) LOL topplebush.com topplebush.com ................................................

To: SiouxPal who wrote (16872)	5/12/2005 4:05:39 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 363045

If If you can keep your head when all about you Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you But make allowance for their doubting too, If you can wait and not be tired by waiting, Or being lied about, don't deal in lies, Or being hated, don't give way to hating, And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise: If you can dream--and not make dreams your master, If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim; If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster And treat those two impostors just the same; If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken, And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools: If you can make one heap of all your winnings And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss, And lose, and start again at your beginnings And never breath a word about your loss; If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew To serve your turn long after they are gone, And so hold on when there is nothing in you Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!" If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch, If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you; If all men count with you, but none too much, If you can fill the unforgiving minute With sixty seconds' worth of distance run, Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it, And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son! --Rudyard Kipling

To: SiouxPal who wrote (16872)	5/12/2005 4:13:10 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 363045

Did the facts he cited hit a nerve?

To: SiouxPal who wrote (16872)	5/12/2005 4:37:02 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 363045

Iraqi oil may be taken as 'spoil of war' [Blast from the past and the worst case financial example and length of the war can be looked at with great longing. Geez Loueeze, Iraq is pumping around half of pre war oil quantities?] By Knut Royce in Washington January 11 2003 On patrol ... a Czech soldier stands guard while his unit visits the site of a bombed satellite ground station in the Kuwaiti desert this week. Photo: Reuters/Chris Helgern The White House may tap Iraq's oil to help pay the cost of a military occupation if it decides to take military action against President Saddam Hussein. The move, which could turn much of the Middle-East against the United States, is being seriously considered by officials in the Bush Administration. Officially, the White House agrees that oil revenue will play an important role during any occupation, but only for the benefit of Iraqis. However, according to a source briefed on the option, there are strong advocates for taking the oil funds as "spoils of war". The source said that under the plan the US would "take all the oil money until there is a new democratic government" in Iraq. The source said the Justice Department had urged caution and that its lawyers were unsure "whether any of it [Iraqi oil funds] can be used or has to all be held in trust for the people of Iraq". Another source who has worked closely with the Vice-President's office said a number of officials there wanted to use the oil funds to defray the cost of occupation. However, Halim Barakat, a former lecturer of Arab studies at Georgetown University, said the move would reinforce the prevalent belief in the Middle-East that a conflict would be about oil control, not rooting out weapons of mass destruction. "It would mean that the real ... objective of the war is not the democratisation of Iraq, not getting rid of Saddam, not to liberate the Iraqi people, but a return to colonialism," he said. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that an occupation may cost between $US12billion ($21 billion) and $US48billion a year and last 18 months or more. [WOW! It costs us $1B/week and its been 2 years with no end in sight and $300B allocated --- what rot!] Iraq's proven oil reserves are second in the world only to Saudi Arabia's but it is unclear how much revenue could be generated. The budget office estimates Iraq is now producing nearly 2.8 million barrels a day, with 80 per cent of the revenues going to the United Nations oil-for-food program or being used domestically. The remaining 20 per cent, worth about $US3 billion a year, is generated by oil smuggling, and much of it goes to supporting Saddam's military. This is the money the White House is most probablytargeting. Fresh drilling and new equipment could result in Iraq producing much more, but some oil experts estimate it would take 10 years to restore the country's oil industry. There are fears that Saddam would torch his oil fields, as he did in Kuwait during the 1991 Gulf War. If this happened it would take a year or more to resume even a modest flow. =========== Those dang Middle Easterners understood about WMds and democratization being absolute shams. Obviously, they were smarter and more realistic than Republicans.