To: Grainne who wrote (104041 ) 5/14/2005 3:36:47 PM From: E Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807 Re Opus Dei: I haven't talked to him about Opus Dei, which I"ve always thought of as a very weird group, a cult. N (Mr. E)was startled to hear George used to be in OD, and has urged him to write about it. In this article, he talks about having been once very religious but doesn't mention that he was Opus Dei religious. I email with George quite often, but although N (Mr.E) knows him in person, I've just happened not to be there when they met. He lives in MA and doesn't get to NY often. I'll probably meet him in 3D when we're in MA in the fall. Maybe I can ask him ahead of time (since other people will be there) if I can ask him about Opus Dei. I'll read up on it first, if so. I know what you mean about wanting to "kick" him. It reminds me of the first "sick" joke I ever heard when I was a kid. It involved a man being in love with a woman with a severe hump on her back. A lot of buildup about how his love was so great he didn't notice her physical defect, how bent over she was, etc etc. His family is coming to visit. Buildup about how proud he says he'll be of her, she's so wonderful... His family knocks on the door. The husband says to his crippled wife, "There they are, darling. Now would you stand up straight for just a little while?" I didn't know about the category "sick joke," so was sooo shocked when the punch line arrived. Anyway, I know what you mean about wanting to kick a depressed person and say, "Just go out with friends! Just get some aerobic exercize! Just get into therapy, take meds, volunteer with people less fortunate!" I though George did a good job of explaining how disabled from being able to help themselves people with his affliction (which isn't precisely the usual depression) are, though. They need intervention, clearly. I thought he did a good job of explaining how financial pressures, or poverty, can make the situation worse, or trigger it, too.