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Gold/Mining/Energy : PEAK OIL - The New Y2K or The Beginning of the Real End? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: kryptonic6 who wrote (524)	5/15/2005 1:12:13 AM
From: Mahatmabenfoo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1183

> Manhattan Project secret during the largest global war in > history. The grunt enriching uranium in Tennessee had no idea > that it would be used to decimate Hiroshima But in this case you needed people from a very small class of building demolition experts who would at least have an idea they were doing something crazy. They'd need time, bombs and access to wire three buildings, and a command center for them to wait to blow them up. You also needed others to monitor the planes and guide them to their destinations (both the ones that hit buildings, and the one that disappeared while a missle really hit the pentagon). You'd need the complicity of the Congressional committee that reviewed the evidence not to notice the third building that went down despite practically no damage, or that the nation's air defenses were suddenly shut down that day, or the steel broke in truck length pieces and was carted to Japan before it could be examined. A lot of those people might not have the whole story; but at the very least they ought to be suspicious. > The United States Joint Chief's of Staff didn't consider > staging fake terror attacks using remote controlled airliners > to be "unthinkable", considering they planned to do just that > in 1962 to gain public support for war with Cuba: Well a lot of crazy stuff was considered then (I think even the phrase "thinking the unthinkable was about the possibilty of deliberate nuke war") but they didn't DO it. The risks and chances of failure were great -- so what was the upside? FTW editor Mike Ruppert names Richard Cheney as the prime suspect in 9/11, as Cheney fully understood the implications of peak oil and had everything on the table at his secret energy task force meetings in spring 2001 (the minutes of which the courts just ruled to keep secret). A short synopsis of Ruppert's book is available here: > I have not seen any evidence that Bush needed to know > beforehand. Not only was he on vacation the entire month of > August 2001, he wasn't even in control on the morning of 9/11 > - Cheney was. Wow. Do you think he understands even now that 911 was Cheney's idea? Then who's pulling Cheney's strings, and why would they risk their demonic plan for world domination on a guy with a three heart attacks and had a quadruple cardiac bypass? > How would it benefit these individuals personally > to sound the alarm? Because they're also egomaniacs who like to be "right" and there's a thrill in getting everyone together shoulder to shoulder. If they just wanted to be playboys they could have picked an easier road. The moment the reality of peak hits, Carter's reputation will go up, and Reagans will sink. Plus those guys and their children live on this planet too. Why would they want to be responsible for the end of industrial civilization, especially since they were the last best chance to help us convert to something sustainable? >> Everything about this is nuts >Agreed. Or not nuts. Conspiracies are ultimately a kind of optimism -- evil people are in control, but in a way that''s more comforting than chaos, short-sightedness, and ineptitude. So what's Cheney get out of sending a bankrupted America (bankrupted in money, reputation, and oil) into a future where it sudden needs to build 100,000 windmills and 100,000 nuke plants and simultaneous cut back energy use and start to plant corn in shopping mall parking lots? His folk are already in control -- why mess around with a radical re-ordering of the social structure, or really the destruction of all its institutions (globalism, banking, airtravel) when with some planning the old order could have been perpetuated on a smaller scale? > Let me just say that in a few decades, who did what on 9/11 > isn't going to matter, and I don't know if anything positive > can arise from knowing the unpleasant truth. I partly agree. The inclination not to think is strong, since opening one's mind to peak oil alone is sanity threatening. But when I idly contemplate scenarios that Cheney could have in mind I don't like what I see. And in a way this is the problem for all of us. Peak oil isn't a matter of convincing people that we can't indefinitely use up a limited resource. Secretly everyone knows. - Charles