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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (162113)	5/15/2005 4:21:56 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

>> And I replied, that for Bush to have relied on an "intentionally misleading" argument for his CHIEF reason, that is, to make as his main case a line line of argument that he KNEW would fall apart and make him look a fool, would be pretty damn stupid on his part. I think you can agree that whatever else Bush is, he is not a stupid politician. And why would this be? Firstly, Bush and Co could have gotten away with it. There is no way they could have known a top secret British memo would be discovered. Secondly, Neocons have never cared about public opinion so long as they get what they want. So it is not reasonable that concern for such discovery would have stopped them. They'd put the world in front of a done deal that there was no turning back from. In fact it is unlikely that either candidate (whoever they may be) in the next presidential race will announced support for quick withdrawal from Iraq. They wanted a war and they got it and now we are stock with it. Who cares if what the public finds out now? What effect will that have on Bush? >> Therefore I believe that Bush and Blair believed that the WMD case was safe to make, based on the intelligence they were getting. I notice that the very memo you are trumpeting as some sort of proof of 'no WMD' has the military asking, You believe incorrectly and you are not even reading the memo right. It is the military who is asking questions about the WMD and not Cheney/Bush/etc. The military was kept in the dark like everyone else. On the other hand the memo is quite clear as to where Bush stands: Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy.