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To: Sun Tzu who wrote (162117)	5/15/2005 4:38:46 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

nice site, thanks. Read this? This section is the most comprehensive summary of Jewish genetic data. In recent years, advances in genetic technology and the broadening in scope of genetic studies to encompass more ethnic groups have allowed scientists to come to more accurate conclusions. Nevertheless, not all questions have been answered fully, and followup studies are necessary. At the present time, it is known that Eastern European Jews have a significant Eastern Mediterranean element which manifests itself in a close relationship with Kurdish, Armenian, Palestinian Arab, Lebanese, Syrian, and Anatolian Turkish peoples. This is why the Y-DNA haplogroups J and E, which are typical of the Middle East, are so common among them. At the same time, there are traces of European (including Western Slavic) and Khazar ancestry among European Jews. Ethiopian Jews mostly descend from Ethiopian Africans who converted to Judaism, but may also be related to a lesser extent to Yemenite Jews. Yemenite Jews descend from Arabs and Israelites. North African Jewish and Kurdish Jewish paternal lineages come from Israelites. Additional research is necessary, and it will certainly take several more years to sort it all out. What we can say for sure is that Jewish Y-DNA tends to come from the Middle East, and that studies that take into account mtDNA show that many Jewish populations are related to neighboring non-Jewish groups maternally. All existing studies fail to compare modern Jewish populations' DNA to ancient Judean DNA and medieval Khazarian DNA, but in the absence of old DNA, comparisons with living populations appear to be adequate to trace geographic roots

To: Sun Tzu who wrote (162117)	5/16/2005 12:32:06 AM
From: marcos	Respond to of 281500

Yes i've seen that, a good deal of it is accepted history, fairly demonstrable, but i recall wondering about some of the speculations there were indulging in [haven't looked at it tonight] ... the way you say it here, 'most Jews', overstates the case considerably, imho, if what you mean by 'indigenous' is that the bloodlines go back that far ... that's not what i mean by indigenous, fwiw, really land claims based on ancestry cannot remain valid for multiple thousands of years, or we're all in trouble ... but as for bloodlines, the DNA seems to be indicating considerable connection, very close kinship to palestinians, with some expected european influence thrown in, these things happen when boy meets girl It's not about jews in any case, it's about zionism ... there are plenty of jews worldwide who are not robbing palestinians, and not all zionists are jews either, some are whackjob US politicians of recent note, others end-times evangelicals who figure they'll speed up 'rapture' if they can get Armageddon rolling ... but they need a perfect red heifer to do so, believe it or not, so a resistance fighter with a spray can of paint in the right spot could save the world .... gawd, you couldn't make some of this stuff up, could you