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To: DavesM who wrote (113944)5/16/2005 1:57:13 AM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793964
 
Dave, FDR needed a war badly to bring the nation out of the Great Depression. None of his programs were working. Before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, he was in the process of trashing every treaty we ever had with Japan, and showed then no respect at all, which in those days of "saving face" was a slap in their face.

Then one has to consider that it is poor military tactics to bring an entire fleet into one port when there is war in the world. The military leaders of the Navy, Army, Marines, and Army Air Force in Hawaii let the War Department know that they were against doing such a thing, but FDR sent an executive order directly from the White House to bring the entire Pacific fleet into Pearl. If it had not been for Bull Halsey faking engine failure in his carrier task force that was out of port on maneuvers, we would have had no Navy left in the Pacific to stem the tide of the Japanese advances.

One of my uncles was a naval officer, stationed in Pearl Harbor, and he verified the above was true.



To: DavesM who wrote (113944)5/16/2005 6:45:58 AM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793964
 
There is the government and the American people. The American people had nothing to do with sinking the Bismark. In general the American people were ignorant of the actions FDR was taking to literally fight the Nazis. My reading of history says joe was in the millions of exterminated well before hitler was even in power.

The justification if any for FDR to act was if he believed Germany would evolve into a imminent national threat to the USA. That is what the constitution says.

Based upon the fact we know now hitler was a mental case drug addict whose stupid decisions in great part lead to the speed of Germany's military defeats. It is quite possible that Germany would have made a mess of many places, but ultimately did not have the logistic capacity to conquer the Solviet Union and maintain control of Europe.

America always had the logistic capacity to conquer the world.
And the Manhattan Project also showed how quickly America could answer any technology challenge.

I have no problem with FDR for doing what he did in covertly fighting. The questions posed relates to England and France declaring war to save Poland and in the end selling out Poland to an evil little different than the Nazis.