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To: Dave who wrote (181165)	5/16/2005 1:14:18 AM
From: Dan3	Respond to of 186894

Re: I was under the impression that an IQ around 120 was "average"? By definition, 100 is the average IQ.

To: Dave who wrote (181165)	5/16/2005 1:14:50 AM
From: Dave Budde	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

This IQ comparison I referenced is a hoax. If you actually read the fine print, it clearly shows that. Unfortunately most people just look at the chart and jump to conclusions. brushwud and Duke of URL felt some need to refute it as if that was really necessary. I posted it only because GVTucker made the following statement: "On average, the education level of the people who voted for him (Bush) is no different than that of the people that voted for Kerry." GV presented no data to back this claim as there really isn't any. There is also none to refute it. The chart I posted was floating around during the election. It was published in the Economist and then later retracted. It was a joke. Everyone just lighten up. The election is over. Bush won. La ti da ti da.

To: Dave who wrote (181165)	5/16/2005 2:55:36 AM
From: The Duke of URL©	Respond to of 186894

100. Both the Wexler and the Stanford Benet are standardized on that number although they differ slightly in what they use as standard deviation. 120 would be about what, the 85th percentile, somthing like that.

To: Dave who wrote (181165)	5/16/2005 3:10:18 AM
From: Amy J	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Dave, If an engineer takes this test below, they are probably in the upper > 95% percentile in three areas.... But ironically, their occupation drags them down in the test to a few points above a funeral director: US Class Comparison Calculator: nytimes.com What does that say for how popular smartness is in this country? What does that say about the future of America? If a govt invested in a country's future research, rather than flippers, you wouldn't have this negative situation. Research would be cool and popular. Instead, we have become a consumer marketing country filled with slogans and one-liners, without the intellectual depth of innovation. Look no further than the positive energy Arnold created with the stem scientists, to understand what should be done. Regards, Amy J PS In the engineering community, 120 might be so-so, which probably explains why you think it is average.