To: marcos who wrote (162159 ) 5/16/2005 2:38:57 AM From: Nadine Carroll Read Replies (1) | Respond to Yes of course, the jews living in the three or four little enclaves including part of Jerusalem, they were indigenous, having been invited in by a califa not long after the crusaders had been beaten off for the last time, and the reconquista had happened in Iberia, fifteenth or sixteenth century ... can't recall which califa, but there is a story to it, they were sefardis and he was balancing something or other political .... yes certainly they were indigenous, they and their direct descendants also indigenous to Palestine? very good indeed, a big step. Makes the formulas a little more complicated, doesn't it? can't just say "the foreigners came to dispossess the indigenous" anymore...now maybe I can even get you to acknowledge that the Jews in the land of Israel considered themselves part of the same people as the Jews in the diaspora, and that they at any rate did not think that other Jews were foreigners in the same sense that the British were foreigners?they were also quite strongly anti-zionist, no rip-off artists these
