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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (162204)	5/16/2005 2:46:04 PM
From: Sun Tzu	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Jews did a lot of things before Israel and achieved much (with often great benefits to humanity). But what they did not do, at least to my knowledge, was to unite and go on an exploration mission to find a suitable land for forming a government...they did however, as I am sure you are keenly aware, nurse their wounds used it as source of energy to keep their identity...so the "whining" does have its uses. Perhaps a coming century understands "The Problem of the Pal: the promise of assimilation as a citizen will be proven false, while the rising issues with Islam/Arab/Jihad/Oil/political-trend-of-the-day" and allows them the right of return. Who knows, fortunes in the world change often enough that... It really does sound ironic that you are complaining about Pals' "whining" when whining is so much part of the Jewish culture that even the Jews themselves joke about it from time to time. >> What you fail to appreciate is how Arab politics not only fails to reward any Israeli move towards peace, but savagely punishes it. This too is ironic as I have often seen it the other way around. Nor are the relations with Arabs the only example of this. Take for example what you yourself said about the Iranian Supreme Court's decision that there are no hostilities with US. A real pragmatic peace loving person would opt to encourage such actions while punishing the hardliners. But thanks to the Neoconian policies democratic movements in Iran have been pushed back and whereas at the beginning of Bush's presidency the parliament and the president were both reformists and all that was standing in the way was the judiciary, now the Parliament is in control of hardliners and the presidency will almost certainly will take a back step too.