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To: DavesM who wrote (114100)	5/17/2005 2:45:12 AM
From: haqihana	Respond to of 793969

Daves, I was alive, and kicking in 1941, and the great depression was far from over in places like Kansas City, and Denver. I feel sure the same was true of other cities. I don't know if you read a history book, or where your information came from, but mine came from personal experience. I don't give a damn if the Japanese were no given respect, or not, but when a nation goes about breaking every contract they had with another nation, there is going to be some kind of trouble as a result because the nation on the short end of the stick, is going to get pissed off and do something about it. It is in the records that FDR sent an executive order for the entire Pacific fleet to assemble at Pearl Harbor, which is against prudent stationing of ships, weapons, and personnel in such a vulnerable situation. The Enterprise, and it's accompanying task force was commanded by Halsey, and he had receive orders to get back into Pearl, but cleverly, he did not do so. Without the Lexington, and Enterprise, there would have been no victory in the sea battle of Midway, which was instrumental in giving us time to plan, and equip, the counter attacks that were to take back the islands in the Pacific. The devastation on Oahu was made worse because of a faulty, and on that day, misuse of the new radar system that was installed in the slot in the mountains which the Japanese planes passed through on the way to Pearl. The commanders on Oahu had become complacent in their duties, and are surely partly to blame for the lack of readiness of the defenses, but had only a portion of the fleet been in Pearl, it would not have made such a juicy target for the Japanese, and those commanders argued against the amassing of the fleet in one place. Anyone that was there will say the same thing. I heard it first hand near the end of the war, from my uncle, and several other officers in the Navy, that were stationed there during the attack. At that time, none of them were in any command, so they were not trying to wriggle out of a bad rap. Believe what you want, and I will believe what I heard from the horse's mouth.

To: DavesM who wrote (114100)	5/17/2005 7:47:59 AM
From: Hoa Hao	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793969

"They feared the loyalty of many of their own troops more than the Japanese Imperial Navy." I am curious about what you mean by this comment Regarding the economics, if you go back a bit, you will find the US economy picking up due to orders for war material from Europe starting in 1938. The US Army was about 138,000 in 1938; by end of 1940 it was 1.5 million or so, if I recall correctly. In other words, the US was engaging in a peacetime military build up while also receiving overseas orders for equipment. Course, everybody was ill equipt and woefully under trained which is why Pearl Harbor happened. Roosevelt never had a handle on how to get the US out of the great depression.