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To: epicure who wrote (104378)	5/17/2005 9:39:41 AM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Every thing you said in this paragraph applies to you and all consumers, not to corporations who attempt to supply you. Yeah- the US is rapacious. I'm completely comfortable with that assessment. I've no idea how you can look at our unsustainable resource usage in the US and come to a different conclusion- but there you are. Maybe you are looking at small examples and fail to see the larger picture. Our burn rate of the world's resources is amazing. Our use of water per household is profligate. Our use of gasoline is obscene. Our tendency to overpackage things, and then discard the packaging amazes me. Rapacious. Irresponsible. Despoilers of the Earth. Yup.

To: epicure who wrote (104378)	5/17/2005 3:21:03 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

What an informative post, Ionesco. Thanks very much for digging out all that information. I knew America had lost a lot of its topsoil, for example, but I had no idea how much exactly.

To: epicure who wrote (104378)	5/17/2005 6:09:39 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

<<Croplands lose an average of 17 t/ha/yr of soil to water and wind erosion combined, but in some states such as Iowa, erosion rates average 30/t/ha/yr.>> That's an old, old study. It used to be the only way to fight bugs and weeds was to use a mold board plow and the disk leaving naked dust on the surface. I can remember power poles being eaten off by blowing dirt. Now we have no till farming. Leave the crusted top of the soil plus 70% coverage of that dirt. Terraced hills and grass strips to hold back the soil. Chemicals will take care of the weeds and bugs. Blowing snow is now white instead of brown. It may surprise you but farmers don't want to see their money maker go down the creek.