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To: tejek who wrote (233175)	5/17/2005 1:34:45 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1574490

"American history books say it was the Viet Cong." If they do, they are wrong. The VC pretty ceased to exist as a major force after the Tet Offensive. Besides, the US wasn't losing in Vietnam, but we weren't winning either. When you have to establish heavily fortified firebases with little free movement and lots of areas where you just don't go, victory isn't assured. That is why the word "quagmire" is associated with it.

To: tejek who wrote (233175)	5/17/2005 7:18:13 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574490

No one has ever claimed it was the NVA that brought down the US. I didn't claim the NVA brought down the US. I said it brought down South Vietnam. But the NVA did account for most of the American casualties. The Viet Cong didn't really fight the US most of the time. The NVA tried to take built up American positions. It always failed but only after some hectic moments for the Americans. Also when it didn't want to or didn't feel up to attacking the US forces with a conventional attack the NVA could and did use guerilla warfare tactics. After Tet the indigenous Vietcong had been devastated, and most of the attacks on Americans where by NVA forces. Edit - Steve makes a good point. If your going to call anything "another Vietnam" you should know enough about the Vietnam war to know what the NVA was. Huh? He throws out initials I had never seen before If your commenting on the Vietnam war, or about parallels to that war, and you don't know what the NVA was its like commenting on the relative merits of INTC and AMD as investments without knowing what PC or CPU stand for. Its theoretically possible to understand the companies and their products without knowing these terms but its extremely unlikely. Insurgencies are notorious for bringing down an occupying, standing army [see Afghanistan] The rebels in Afghanistan caused a lot of trouble for the Soviets but the situation was a lot different. The USSR was decaying at the time. The terrain in Afghanistan is more difficult then the terrain in most of Iraq. The Soviet army was comparatively poorly trained, and morale and discipline were not good (Soviet soldiers sometimes even sold weapons and supplies to their enemy), and the fighters in Afghanistan had help from a superpower in their fight against the Soviets. Tim