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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (233460)5/18/2005 6:24:12 PM
From: Cyprian  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1573306
 
So are the modern religions of:

- Buddhism
- Islam
- Secular humanism
- Money

Why single out Judaism? Nothing makes a non-believer more distrustful of Christianity than anti-Semitism disguised in Christian clothes.


i'll tell you what. i'll make you a deal. when the media becomes thoroughly controlled by muslims and buddhists and they begin to exalt the kingdom of antichrist i will focus my attention on those antichrist religions.

when so-called mainstream "christian" leaders such as jerry falwell, pat robertson, franklin graham, etc. start criticizing judaism and calling it an "evil and wicked religion" while praising islam, then i will shift my focus accordingly. as it stands, franklin graham, jerry falwell, pat robertson, and their ilk constantly praise israel and the jews, while virulently attacking islam. when they reverse course, so will i. don't count on it anytime soon.

when the media starts using terms such as "radical judaism", "radical buddhism", "radical secular humanism", etc. then i will adjust my focus.

as it now stands, it is entirely acceptable to blaspheme Christians in the mainstream media, with impunity. it is perfectly acceptable to use terms like "radical right wing christians" "radical islam", "extremist islam", "fanatical islam" etc.

notice how you never hear the term "radical judaism" or "extremist jews" or "fanatical jews" in the media.

coincidence? of course not. the media is wholly controlled by jews and since islam and Christianity are both opponents of judaism they are constantly being attacked.

Cyprian

p.s. did our president put a giant buddha in the white house and have a ceremony exalting buddha? NOPE. did our president display a prominent nativity scene in the white house this year? NOPE. what did our president do? he conducted a ceremony with a bunch of antichrist jews and helped them light a gigantic larger than life channukiah (menorah) in the white house this holiday season.

our supposedly "christian" president seems to have an affinity for everything jewish.

Cyprian



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (233460)5/18/2005 6:29:25 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 1573306
 
the vast majority of people love to throw around the term anti-semite, while being wholly ignorant of its meaning. when you read the scriptures and God enlightens your mind with his Truth, you will come to understand the true meaning of terms such as anti-semite.

rather than type it all over again, here is a post i wrote not long ago addressing this very topic:

once you recognize that Christ is the source of all truth, not the ADL or the vain notions of men, Emile's views will make perfect sense.

for Christ is the son of David, of the tribe of Judah, and son of Abraham. Christ is the greatest Jew there is. there is none greater Jew than Christ. Christ is the greatest semite as well, for a semite is simply a shemite--from the tribe of Shem, one of Noah's three sons.

therefore to be against Christ makes you the greatest Jew hater in the world--for Christ and his bride the Church are one flesh. all their offspring--Christians--are children of Christ and children of Abraham as well.

therefore those who oppose Christ are opposing the greatest Semite of all. whomever opposes Christ is the true anti-semite. not just oppose mind you, for the word "anti" does not solely mean against. it also means "in place of". Emile simply condemns those who seek to put themselves above and in place of our Lord and His Church. they try to assume titles that are reserved for Christ and His Church alone, in the spirit of their father the devil--for he was the original usurper. Emile is simply reproving, rebuking, and exhorting with all long-suffering and doctrine the unfruitful works of darkness. that is not hatred, but love. Emile loves his Lord so much that he hates to see Christ's name sullied and hijacked by the synagogue of satan.

now, father Emile has the glorious light of Christ our Lord shining within him, and is not in darkness. hence he recognizes and understands just who it is that are liars but call themselves Jews. they are nothing more than usurpers as the devil himself. in the spirit of their father the devil and in the spirit of antichrist, they seek to usurp every good name which is reserved solely for God's faithful followers who abide in His Son.

let's be clear. Christians are the true Jews. Christians are the true Zionists. Zion is a term that the bible applies to both Christ and His people the Church. the same applies to the term Israel. Jesus Christ is the true Israel, and so is His Church. how the title is applicable to both is readily apparent when you recognize that Christ is married to His bride the Church and the scriptures inform us that in marriage:

"Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." (Matthew 19:6)

this is further clarified by St. Paul in his letter to the Ephesians:

For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. (Ephesians 5:23)

i hope Emile will permit me to clarify something on his behalf. Emile often rails against what he terms "Christian and Jewish Zionists". he is correct in his assessments; the earthly Zionist movement is the personification of evil and is of the devil. but it would be helpful if he clarified more often that there are two major types of Zionists, just as their are two major applications to the term Zion.

there is the heavenly Zion, which represents Christ and his Church. Satan's counterfeit opposition to this, designed to seduce and confuse the nations, is earthly or worldly Zion and a carnal or worldly Zionism.

those who are risen with Christ set their sights and affections on the heavenly Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, and the heavenly promised land--the spiritual Israel.

those who are of their father the devil are carnally minded. they glory in earthly things such as the land of palestine in the middle east. they set their hopes and affections on a worldly kingdom of might and power. they seek an earthly king to rule on their behalf, rejecting the King of kings and Lord of lords which is now reigning from heaven. the devil confuses his children by deceiving them into believing that they are somehow chosen of God simply based upon their ethnic lineage. the devil deceives them into believing that God is gathering them back into the earthly land of Israel so he can come back and put their enemies under the feet. these people falsely call themselves Jews, they falsely call their nation Israel, and they are falsely called Zionists. they falsely believe and teach others that they are God's chosen. actually they are Satan's chosen.

Christians like Emile speak out against this usurping that is done to take the blessings and titles given by God to Christians for themselves. the single greatest antichrist force in the world today comes from the carnal kingdom which has falsely called itself "Israel". it is of course inhabited by millions of antichrists who falsely call themselves "Jews".

it is only in this context can we understand the meaning of scriptures such as Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. --Revelation 2:9

Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee. --Revelation 3:9

Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the Lord, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth, nor in righteousness. --Isaiah 48:1

now most Chrisitans recognize that the words "truth" and "righteousness" are two of many titles given to our Lord Jesus Christ. this verse in Isaiah speaks to the "house of Jacob". Jacob means "supplanter" or one who takes something that does not rightly belong to him. Notice this supplanting nation which tries to heap the blessings and promises given to Christians upon themselves, calls themselves Israel. but they do not do it in truth or in righteousness, which is to say that they do not do it in Christ. for Christ is the way the truth and the life. Christ is THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Jeremiah 23:6).

so this usurping nation that makes vain mentions and swearings of the name of God, but not in truth or righteousness, do not have Christ. for let's look at the verse again but substitute the name of Christ for "truth" and for "righteousness".

Hear ye this, O house of Jacob, which are called by the name of Israel, and are come forth out of the waters of Judah, which swear by the name of the Lord, and make mention of the God of Israel, but not in truth [Christ], nor in righteousness. [Christ].

this nation which claims itself to be Israel, which swears that they are of God, but does not have the truth--THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS, are nothing more than the synagogue of satan.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (233460)5/18/2005 6:34:30 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 1573306
 
here is another old post of mine that pertains to the term anti-semite:

>> Oh please, you are an antisemite through and through, and the sickest one on SI, imo. <<

an anti-semite is one who is against or in place of (instead of) Christ or his offspring (Christians). if you knew anything about the origins of the term semite and of the terms anti, you would not speak with error.

those liars and deceivers who falsely call themselves Jews and go about calling everyone else anti-semites are the true anti-semites. for these liars who call themselves Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan, are diabolically opposed to Christ and His body the Church.

the prophet Isaiah was speaking of these false-Jews when he warned:

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! --Isaiah 5:20

Isaiah is speaking of turning truth upside down on its head. he is referring to calling Christ and Christians--sons and daughters and brothers and sisters of God evil, like you do to Emile, while glorifying the evil and wicked ones who falsely call themselves "Jews" and "Israel" all the while denying Christ as the true and living God by whom all things were made.

the only way Steven Spielberg or Barbara Streisand or Ariel Sharon can become true Jews in the eyes of God is to put on the circumcision of Christ, and not to boast of their outward circumcision in the flesh and their (alleged) physical descent from Abraham.

pray to God and ask him to reveal to you the truth and then read the following passage in Romans two ten times. notice it starts off not by saying you ARE a Jew, but you are merely CALLED a Jew, like the majority of the world calls those false usurpers over in Israel "Jews", when according to the scriptures they are liars and the synagogue of satan (Rev 2:9/3:9)

17. Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,
18. And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law;
19. And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness,
20. An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.
21. Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself? thou that preachest a man should not steal, dost thou steal?
22. Thou that sayest a man should not commit adultery, dost thou commit adultery? thou that abhorrest idols, dost thou commit sacrilege?
23. Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God?
24. For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written.
25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26. Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27. And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28. For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

after you pray humbly to God and ask Him to reveal to you the meaning of this passage, take note of the last part of the last verse.

"whose praise is not of men, but of God."

then you will understand the nature of those who are ignorant of God's righteousness and praise men for being Jews, and those who are praised by God for being the true Jews inwardly.

now what does it mean to be circumcised inwardly? St. Paul makes it quite clear in another epistle to the Colossians.

In whom [Christ] also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

with the advent of Christ there has now become a clearly vain and useless circumcision outward in the flesh (employed the so-called Jews), and a highly profitable circumcision of the heart, by Christ.

Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. --Exodus 4:25-26

Christians now recognize that Christ is the sharp stone whereby we circumcise the foreskins of our heart, not the vain and useless outward circumcision of the Jews, cuttings of the flesh.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (233460)5/18/2005 6:38:19 PM
From: Cyprian  Respond to of 1573306
 
yet another old post:

>> I do believe the current nation of Israel is a secular nation -- and doesn't figure into those prophecies. <<

there are two primary kingdoms of israel. the true and the false. one of Christ, the other of antichrist. the body of Christ is the true Israel, and is made up of all pious and orthodox Christians who share the faith of our father Abraham. this kingdom is not constrained by borders or ethnicity. it is a spiritual kingdom, an heavenly kingdom, made up of those who are born by water and spirit into the family of God.

the false kingdom of israel is the kingdom of antichrist in this age. it is a carnal kingdom. the kingdom of antichrist worships and imitates their father the devil, for Christ said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." what are the lusts of the devil? through his pride he sought to usurp for himself the worship that is reserved for God alone. of course he is also a liar and a murderer, etc.

so how does the kingdom of antichrist do the lusts of their father? they are usurpers, liars, and murderers, like him. as antichrist takes titles that rightfully belong to Christ, such as Israel, Zion, Jerusalem, Judah, etc. for himself, so his children imitate him.

since the bride of Christ takes on the name of her bridegroom, and we as adopted sons and daughters of God take on the name of our Father, the Church is likewise called Israel, Zion, Jerusalem, Judah, etc.

in imitation of their father the devil, the kingdom of antichrist seeks to usurp these titles which rightfully belong to Christ and his Church for themselves.

recall the parable of the wheat and the tares. Christ is the good sower and sows wheat. the devil sneaks in and sows tares alongside them. do you see how he simply wants to imitate Christ? he has to wait until he sees what Christ does before he knows how to counterfeit and deceive.

as Christ's kingdom the true Israel is made up of believers from every nation under heaven, who gather into the heavenly Jerusalem to worship God, so the kingdom of antichrist is comprised of many nations who will be gathered into the earthly jerusalem to worship the devil and his antichrist.

as the wheat (orthodox Christians) are planted in the field (and Christ said the field is the world), so must it be with the tares, who are cunningly sown right next to them. as Christ's kingdom is scattered abroad throughout the whole world, so must antichrist's kingdom be sown right alongside them.

one must understand that when i speak of "israel" as the kingdom of antichrist, and "jerusalem" as the great harlot--the city of the devil and seat of Satan, one should not assume that i use these terms in primarily a geographical sense.

Jerusalem is spoken in the scriptures as not only the city of God, but also the city of the devil. Jerusalem symbolizes the body of Christ, as well as the body of antichrist. Jerusalem symbolizes both the new covenant of life and the old covenant of death.

someone may ask, how is one to distinguish between the two Jerusalems and not fall into confusion? for babylon means "confusion" does it not? this is where we derive the term babble--as when a baby babbles, from the city and tower of babel, where God confused the tongues and language.

Christians (the wheat) worship in the heavenly Jerusalem. we may physically gather in churches scattered across the globe, but our worship is directed upward. this is why many churches are designed with vaulted and high ceilings. for it draws the eyes upward toward heaven.

But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, (Hebrews 12:22-23)

notice that the inspired author of Hebrews does not say that ye WILL come to mount Sion, but ye ARE. i have found that many protestants don't grasp this concept. they think of the heavenly Jerusalem as something that is to come, rather than a present reality.

now, the synagogue of Satan (the tares) are scattered abroad as well, sown amongst the wheat. as Christians gather in churches around the world, so they gather in their synagogues. only these liars who call themselves jews and are not, are not heavenly minded, setting their sights and affections above, but they are carnally and earthly minded. that is why most jews don't give a lick about heaven and rarely speak of it. they are ensnared in the lusts of this world, and they are in bondage as slaves to the god of this world. that is why they are often heard saying "next year in Jerusalem." not the heavenly Jerusalem mind you, but they want their worldly kingdom back. they want the glorious days of kings David and Solomon once more, when they ruled over the nations.

so as the one, holy, catholic (i.e. universal), and apostolic Church of Christ understands itself to be the true Israel...

the synagogue of Satan seeks to imitate the lusts of their father the devil and build a counterfeit kingdom using the same name.

as Christians are called in the scriptures true Jews, spiritual Jews, seeking the praise of God..... (read the end of Romans 2)

those liars and usurpers of the synagogue of Satan also term themselves Jews in an attempt to deceive and confuse, seeking the praise of men. (see Rev 2:9/3:9 and Rom 2:17/2:24/2:29)

Christians have a holy city of God (Rev ch 12), the heavenly or new Jerusalem, where we set our sights and affections... (Hebrews 12:22/Rev 3:12/Col 3:1-2)

the so-called "Jews" have a city of the devil (Rev ch 17/18), the old Jerusalem, the earthly Jerusalem in bondage with her children, the mother of harlots, (Gal 4:25) that they set their sights and affections on....

Christians gather in churches of God
so-called "Jews" gather in synagogues of Satan

Christians are the true Zionists. (Heb 12:22/ Rev 14:1)
antichrists call themselves zionists as well.

Christians lay claim to our spiritual father Abraham (Gal 3:7)
the antichrist "Jews" boast of their fleshly relation to Abraham.

Christians are the true semites (for Christ came from the tribe of Judah, from the seed of Abraham, who was from the line of shem (sem), one of the three sons of Noah.

the lying "Jews" imitate the father of lies by seeking to usurp this title of being a semite for themselves. Christ explicitly told them that they are not the children of Abraham (a semite), but the children of the devil, the children of Cain. hence the so-called Jews are the true anti-semites, despising the greatest semite to walk the face of the earth, Jesus Christ, and his adopted children Christians. this is what the inspired prophet Isaiah was speaking on behalf of God, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

Christ is good
antichrist is evil

Christ is called light.
antichrist is called darkness.

Christ is called sweet
antichrist is called bitter

the lying synagogue of Satan calls the jews good and the Christians evil. for to them Christians are anti-semites and persecutors, when in actuality the falsely called "jews" are the inveterate enemies of Christ and Christians and "all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias" is on them and their children. these falsely called "jews" call darkness (antichrist) light (moshiach ben david), and call the light (Christ) darkness. Christ is sweet and antichrist Wormwood. these false "jews" call their false moshiach (messiah) ben david, when Christ is the true son of David.

all nations of Christians flow into the heavenly mount Zion established in the tops of the mountains and exalted above the hills (Isa 2)

all nations of antichrist will flow into the earthly Zion, where Satan's seat is (Isa 14:13/Psa 48:2/Rev 2:13)

Christ is going to gather his fruitful wheat into his garner (the heavenly jerusalem)
antichrist will first gather his tares into bundles to be burned in the furnace of fire (the earthly jerusalem).

the servants of God will bear the mark of Christ in their right hands and foreheads
the servants of Satan will bear the mark of antichrist in their right hands or foreheads.

Christ is a star out of jacob
antichrist is a star out of jacob as well (do understand that one star differeth from another in glory)

Christ is a shield to his followers
antichrist is a shield to his followers

Christ is a roaring lion who devours the unrighteous
antichrist is a roaring lion who devours the righteous

our Lord Jesus Christ came with all power and signs and wonders
the enemy of our Lord will come with all power and signs and lying wonders

Christ is the Son of God
antichrist is the son of Satan

Christ is a beautiful and glorious branch
antichrist is an abominable branch

Christ came preaching the kingdom 3 1/2 years
antichrist's reign will be 3 1/2 years

--Cyprian