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To: SilentZ who wrote (233591)	5/19/2005 10:04:29 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1571408

"For one thing, most of the attacks (not the damage) are about Iraqis against Americans, not Iraqis against Iraqis" That has been changing, and gotten worse in this recent spate of violence after the elections. Mosques and religious leaders are being targeted now. Given that it looks like the Shiites have decided to take the gloves off, things are going to escalate.

To: SilentZ who wrote (233591)	5/19/2005 10:05:55 AM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571408

how many hav to die before u call it a civil war??? is it about etiology???

To: SilentZ who wrote (233591)	5/19/2005 10:26:55 AM
From: TigerPaw	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571408

For one thing, most of the attacks (not the damage) are about Iraqis against Americans, not Iraqis against Iraqis. Attacks like this? BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- An aide to Iraq's most powerful Shiite cleric was shot to death Thursday in Baghdad, police said, the second of his aides killed this week. The attack is part of an upsurge in violence since the largely Shiite transitional government came to power. Many of the targets have been Shiites and Kurds. Authorities believe the insurgents are mainly Sunni Arabs. edition.cnn.com Sunnis are concerned that the Shiite government is allowing groups like the Badr Organization to behave like militias. Al-Dhari makes a reference to the arrests in a statement, referring to four Palestinians who were seized. "We knew the sides that stand behind the assassinations of imams, sheikhs, and prayers. They are the same sides that cordoned off the camp of our Palestinian brothers in al-Baladiat area to take them out of the country. They are the Badr militant group," al-Dhari said. "All the world should know that we are heading toward a catastrophe, only God knows when it ends. This is our warning."

To: SilentZ who wrote (233591)	5/19/2005 10:47:51 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1571408

Z, re: I knows it when I sees it, and this ain't it. I probably would have agreed a month ago. But it's getting a different feel now. It's an evolution, not a distinct change. I think in another six months it will be obvious to everyone that it's a civil war. John

To: SilentZ who wrote (233591)	5/19/2005 12:41:59 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1571408

What's your definition of civil war? I knows it when I sees it, and this ain't it. For one thing, most of the attacks (not the damage) are about Iraqis against Americans, not Iraqis against Iraqis. That's true. The war between America and the Iraqis has more visibility and overshadows the fighting between the Sunnis and Shia. Its not an all out civil war but the fighting between them grows with each passing day. The Shia are clever.......they have a militia to do their dirty work while slowly siphoning off power from the Sunnis in the new parliament all the while looking as innocent as new born babes. They are not nearly as passive or docile as I once thought. They are biding their time until they have full control and then Iraq will become Iran adjacent.