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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (162594)5/19/2005 5:40:16 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 

Main Entry: bribe
Pronunciation: 'brIb
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, something stolen, from Middle French, bread given to a beggar
1 : money or favor given or promised in order to influence the judgment or conduct of a person in a position of trust


In other words it is not a bribe if Galloway simply continued what he had been doing all along. Was there any change in the pattern of his behavior before and after the alleged bribe? If not, then you don't have a case even if you can prove the documents are real (which I remain unconvinced of).

>> BTW, the article was published in a newspaper. It's not an editorial...

What I should have said is that the narrator was editorializing the events. The article was 99% personal opinions fallowed by a list of people he said he has found in an Oil Ministry document. There was no context for the papers, their credibility, or the quality of translation given that he admits the documents were cryptic and had to be deciphered. And even if we take his words for it that this document is not a forgery and that his deciphering is accurate, it does not show that there was a bribe involved; only that there was a trade.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (162594)5/19/2005 5:46:22 PM
From: Sun Tzu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I forgot to ask you, what is the name of the company that Galloway is supposed to have done oil trading through? And where is this money? Has anyone found the money? Also, your article said the papers were encrypted. How was it concluded that Galloway had a company that bought 1 million barrels of oil? Was that portion encrypted too?



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (162594)5/19/2005 7:36:35 PM
From: geode00  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
"...Yesterday's report contains documents that bolster previous allegations that the State Department and the U.S.-led naval force may have assisted efforts by a key ally, Jordan, to smuggle $53 million worth of oil from Iraq in seven supertankers in the weeks before the invasion of Iraq.

"The United States not only failed to exert an effort to stop the oil tanker shipments, it appears to have facilitated them, despite widespread recognition that the shipments were a blatant violation of U.N. sanctions," the report states...."

==========Them thar would be Bush's people.

washingtonpost.com