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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: American Spirit who wrote (61628)	5/19/2005 9:13:22 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

as. you said...."I have changed my view on this. I now believe we should get the hell out of there ASAP. Iraq is a quagmire and it's weakening us just like Vietnam did."..... I seem to recall stories of johnny kery consorting with the enemy in an effort to see his own soldiers defeated....hey maybe you could get him to team up with little janie and do it all over again. :-)

To: American Spirit who wrote (61628)	5/19/2005 9:24:25 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

as. You said...."If Arabs hate us so much why are we over there occupying one of their biggest countries?"...... Cuz the enemy are crazed suicidal religious nutbars.....have you forgotten 9/11? IMO it had become necessary to confront these crazies IN THEIR YARD or do nothing and permit them to get stronger. I'm sure you would go with the let them get stronger option but fortunately the USA has a president that has the courage to confront these nuts and no matter now who is president the war against islam terror will continue. They don't want to negotiate, the west has nothing they want. They want us all dead and that would include you unless of course you are of their religion. More from the enemy...they really are nutty. Iraq Qaeda leader defends slaying of Muslims -Web 18/5/2005 newsbox.msn.co.uk DUBAI (Reuters) - Al Qaeda's leader in Iraq defended the killing of "innocent Muslims" in suicide bombings against U.S. forces, saying it was legitimate under Islam for the sake of jihad (holy war), according to an audio tape attributed to him on Wednesday. "The killing of infidels by any method including martyrdom (suicide) operations has been sanctified by many scholars even if it means killing innocent Muslims. This legality has been agreed upon ... so as not to disrupt jihad," Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said on the tape posted on an Islamist Web site. The Jordanian militant, Washington's biggest foe in Iraq, quoted Muslim scholars to justify the loss of Muslim lives in suicide attacks in Iraq. His message appeared aimed at winning Sunni Muslim support for the insurgency. "Protecting religion is more important than protecting (Muslim) lives, honour or wealth," said the man who sounded like Zarqawi. "The shedding of Muslim blood ... is allowed in order to avoid the greater evil of disrupting jihad." The authenticity of the tape could not be verified and it was not clear when it was recorded. More than 400 people have been killed in an escalating cycle of violence and suicide attacks since a new Iraqi government was named late last month. Zarqawi's group has claimed responsibility for most of those attacks. The speaker said it was crucial to step up suicide attacks to weaken his enemy's modern military might. "These operations are our lethal weapons against the enemy. "God knows that we were careful not to kill Muslims and we have called off many operations in the past to avoid losses ... but we cannot kill infidels without killing some Muslims. It is unavoidable," he added. "We know that some mistakes may happen and victims may fall and this causes us grief, but what can we do in the face of this reality in which the enemy has penetrated our land." He said Muslims killed unintentionally in such attacks were "martyrs who died for Islam". The speaker blasted the Shi'ite Muslim community, calling them "rejectionists who fought alongside the worshippers of the cross and spearheaded every war against Muslims (Sunnis)". Iraq's Sunnis lost power to the county's majority Shi'ites after the U.S. war toppled Saddam Hussein. Addressing Iraq's Sunnis, the speaker added: "We are the spearhead of the Ummah (Sunni nation) and its first line of defence in the face of the crusaders' advance. If the jihad's power subsides then the Ummah will witness calamities and disasters."

To: American Spirit who wrote (61628)	5/19/2005 9:27:18 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

AS. But of course not all the enemies of the USA are over in moslum land. Sandy Berger faces Bar complaint Judicial Watch charges former national security adviser May 19, 2005 WASHINGTON – Sandy Berger, the former national security adviser who pleaded guilty to charges of stealing classified material from the National Archives and lying to federal investigators, now faces an effort to disbar him in the nation's capital. Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates corruption in government, said today it has filed a formal bar complaint against Berger with the Office of Bar Counsel for the District of Columbia Bar. The rules of professional conduct for an attorney in the District of Columbia prohibit a lawyer from committing a criminal act that reflects adversely on trustworthiness; engaging in conduct involving dishonesty, deceit or misrepresentation; and acting in a manner that seriously interferes with the administration of justice, according to Judicial Watch. The stolen documents were copies of highly secret memorandum, possibly with handwritten notes, that allegedly were critical of the Clinton administration’s response to the "Millennium 2000" terror plot to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport. Berger, who was an adviser to the presidential campaign of Sen. John Kerry when the scandal broke, has held multiple national security jobs since the Carter administration and recently was a foreign policy adviser to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Berger initially said he took copies of the classified documents regarding terrorism from the National Archives by "accident" and then misplaced them in what he described as an "honest mistake." He later admitted, however, that after pilfering the documents, he destroyed three of the five with scissors at the office of his consulting firm. Berger is scheduled to be sentenced July 8 and is expected to be fined $10,000 and suffer a temporary loss of his security clearance. However, the deal reportedly allows Berger to reapply for his clearance before the change in administrations in 2008. "We hope that the bar counsel will enforce standards better than the Department of Justice enforces national security laws," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "By his own admission, Berger violated the rules of professional conduct for an attorney in the District of Columbia. Judicial Watch urges the Office of Bar Counsel to promptly investigate Berger and revoke his license." worldnetdaily.com