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To: Sully- who wrote (10609)	5/21/2005 12:18:27 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

"I'm not quite sure why the Times feels it has to hype its investigation this way. Perhaps because the news is already more than two years old." An alarming report and two questions Roger L. Simon The New York Times today has a highly-disturbing article on the murder of two detainees at Baghram Air Base in Afghanistan in 2002. It is based on a 2000-page investigation done by the Army itself into the incidents, which was given to the Times. I have two questions: One, why doesn't the Times make this report available in its entirety to its readers to judge for themselves? It could do so easily enough on its website where a video now appears that could be described as highly-editorial in support of the article. Two, has there been another military force in the history of warfare that so completely investigates the activities of its own personnel for purposes of reviewing their actions morally and legally and improving them? I would like to add that, as a novelist, I found the opening paragraphs of this story particularly badly written, as if taken from the pages of pulp fiction. I'm not quite sure why the Times feels it has to hype its investigation this way. Perhaps because the news is already more than two years old. UPDATE: Austin Bay and I will be on Hugh Hewitt's Show at 4:30PM Pacific to discuss this article, Newsweek and related matters. Also, there may be a revelation regarding Austin and Pajamas Media. [That again?-ed.] MEANWHILE: This report from La Shawn Barber is worth a look. lashawnbarber.com AND: Audio of Hewitt Show here. thepoliticalteen.net Another discussion of Pajamas Media by the estimable Pejman Yousefzadeh here. techcentralstation.com rogerlsimon.com nytimes.com

To: Sully- who wrote (10609)	5/21/2005 12:58:43 AM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

APOLOGISTS FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES John Podhoretz The Corner I've been receiving e-mails all day accusing me of being an "apologist for torture" because I pointed out earlier that today's New York Times story on horrific instances of abuse in Afghanistan was clearly intended to buttress Newsweek's retracted Koran desecration story -- to make the point that Newsweek's account was, in essence, fake but accurate. I guess if you believe in the slippery-slope argument -- the idea, current in all the toniest armchair-critic circles, that if you allow tough detention tactics at prisons you will inevitably end up at torture -- then you also believe that criticizing a story on an incident of prisoner abuse makes the critic a torture apologist. My major criticism of the New York Times story was that the cases it cited occurred two-and-a-half years ago and that every fact in the story was uncovered and reported on by the U.S. military itself in one of those acts of self-examination for which the U.S. military is never, ever, ever given the slightest credit. nationalreview.com nationalreview.com