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To: Ilaine who wrote (115440)	5/22/2005 3:13:31 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793838

These days, liberals find this process too slow. If they don't like something, abolish it via judicial fiat. I don't disagree with this particular differentiation, but I think it's a superficial observation, hardly the essence of the difference between liberals and conservatives. Liberals used the judiciary to get their way because that option was available to them, well suited to what they wanted to accomplish. Had that option been available to the conservatives, they would have used it, too. Just as both liberals and conservatives have used the filibuster tool or the constitutional amendment tool. It's just a tool and sometimes a particular tool fits the problem and sometimes it doesn't. During our lifetimes, what you say is so. But if the conservatives can stack the judiciary for the future, they will use that tool, too.

To: Ilaine who wrote (115440)	5/22/2005 5:57:53 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 793838

" conservative is happy with this process" That is just not true, if you define a conservative as someone who really is conservative, and resistant to change. Lots of "conservative" folks wanted to keep their slaves, and many, many, many social conservatives did not want women to vote, and did not want women in the workplace, and did not want to give women equal pay. Conservatives were definitely NOT happy with the process that changed things they thought should not be changed. People tend to like a process when it gets them what they want, and hate it when it doesn't. That's just human nature- and it isn't liberal or conservative, it's just people. We could both find examples of liberals AND conservatives happy with "the rule of law" and liberals and conservatives with think it is going too slowly, and who use more aggressive means. It's extremists versus moderates- and there are plenty of those on both sides, though we tend to more easily see the extremists in the opposing camp. IMO