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To: TimF who wrote (162966)	5/24/2005 9:50:30 AM
From: jttmab	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Having something be an isolated incident in terms of the overall American military in Vietnam doesn't mean it was the first time that it was "the very first and only time" that either that group or any other "slaughtered innocent civilians" Non sequitor. As for Tiger force exactly what happened is disputed but whatever happened it was one platoon sized unit and its actions where not the normal actions of the whole army in Vietnam. I've seen some people in denial that such a unit might exist under the auspices of the USA. Above and later in your post where you refer to SOP, you've established two sets of ethics. You were quite willing to extrapolate a single incident in Iraq to mean something larger. But your ethics of US actions only has validity if it exists for the entire Army and is a SOP. By no means am I shocked or even surprised by your adoption of a double standard. It's a rather common practice. Nope. It often, probably very often, does use deception but no deception (or attempt at deception) is needed for something to be propaganda. You ignore the semantics of the word. Google on "propaganda" and see what percentage of times the word is used on a neutral basis. It's pervasive usage is in the context of deception and manipulation. It is never used by a writer as self-descriptive, but used by the writer to describe another person [or government] and in common practice, in a pejorative sense. jttmab